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Old October 3rd, 2006, 11:15 PM
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Pros and cons of each...

TRADITIONAL JAPANESE JUJUTSU-
Very well rounded curriculum containing striking, throws, grappling and weapons. No real focus on any range so if you really want to focus on grappling, TJJ is not the way to go. Training is done mostly in a gi.

JUDO-
Focus is mainly on standing throws. Judo involves some ground work but not as detailed as in BJJ. The reason for this is the sporting rules. Judo competition has a ground time limit. Most all training is in the gi. Some styles will deal with strikes but at a very elementary level and is mostly defensive.

WRESTLING-
Focus is primarily on takedowns and takedown defense and controlling the opponent on the ground. Does not deal with strikes or submissions at all. No training in a gi.

BRAZILIAN JIU-JITSU-
Focus is on the ground grappling and submissions (joint locks and chokes). Deals with defending strikes. Takedowns are not on par with wrestling or Judo. Contains most all the same positions and submissions as judo but the submission skills are more advanced than judo and focus mostly on maneuvering the opponent into positions to set up the submissions. Because of this you will find a lot of positions and submissions that are not found in judo. Training is done with and without gi.

SUBMISSION GRAPPLING-
Modern mix of wrestling and BJJ. The best "style" for all around grappling skills. This is the style that most MMA competitors train in. Unfortunately, for you, you will probably only find it in an MMA environment or a school that is geared toward MMA training. Training is done almost exclusively without the gi and often includes a lot of dealing with strikes.

As far as time required to develop skill... you won't develop any real skill in grappling over a short period of time. This is why it takes 10 plus years to get a black belt in BJJ and high level wrestlers have years and years of competitive experience behind them.

The difference is in the actual time spent on the mat. Grappling is a "hands on" style. It's no secret that the styles that have the major sporting aspects develop more applicable skills... this is because the training is practically applied within the sporting arena and there is nothing based on theory.

So the bottom line is what area of grappling do you want to focus on?

Takedowns, takedown defense? Take wrestling.
Throws using a gi? Take judo.
Well rounded curriculum and steeped in tradition? Take TJJ.
Submission skills and submission defense and defending strikes while on the ground? Take BJJ.
Well rounded grappling skills that are applicable in all ranges? Find an MMA school and start submission grappling.

Another style you may want to look into is Russian Sambo. It's a lot like Judo with leglocks (judo doesn't do leglocks).

Also, it must be mentioned that traditional Japanese jujutsu will cover some grappling but there is no real focus on the range in most JJJ schools so it will give you some exposure to grappling but won't really help you develop any high level "grappling" skills compared to the other styles mentioned.

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Thanks for that cam, very informative
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Yes, definitely nice post Cam.

I found it informative as well.
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