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May 9th, 2002, 01:18 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Legendary "one inch punch"? I am able to execute a one inch punch as a "Parlour Trick". I don't think that any real power could be generated.
Has anyone been able to break boars with it
I am interested to know whether any of you have been able to develop the one inch punch to devestating potential
I hope this hasn't been over discussed already.
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May 10th, 2002, 12:15 AM
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Rep Power: 111 | | | The skill you are talking about is referred to in my school as Iron Palm training. This "one-inch punch" is not a completely external muscle breaking of boards and bricks, rather its an internal skill that is cultivated.
There are many levels of Iron Palm training, all working towards the same goal. I am on the lowest level and yes I can break a measley little 1in. thick board. An internal break is done with no muscle tension from about 1 inch away from the object. To me it feels like my hand is floating through the air. Its pretty friggin cool.
There are others who can break multiple boards, bricks, multiple bricks, coconuts, ect... with their Iron Palm skills. Its pretty impressive because an onlooker will see someone who just looks to be dropping their hand through the object. But as with everything in the martial arts, this skill takes a long time and lots of hard work to develope!
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May 10th, 2002, 04:34 PM
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Rep Power: 31 | | I wanna learn Iron Palm It would be so cool. Now, just to find a teacher near me...
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May 14th, 2002, 03:03 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | you'll find that after years of trying to hit things as hard as you can, internal energy is more important that your external strength or how mad you can get. i can send somebody stumbling back just as far by touching them with my fingertips as ramming them with my shoulder. | 
May 14th, 2002, 09:35 PM
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May 15th, 2002, 09:41 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | touching.... i would define touching as building up an awesome amount of energy and releasing it through your fingertips into an opponent, or someone gullible enough to volunteer for a demonstration. it looks deceiving when it's done, yet when somebody hits the wall 8 feet behind them, other people want to know how it's done | 
May 16th, 2002, 09:45 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | baichi, you said it exactly | 
May 17th, 2002, 09:51 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | your comment on the (no physical force) type of thing....that was what i was trying to explain by "touching" | 
May 21st, 2002, 09:08 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | b.s. for what i don't understand why you're trying to badmouth the info i'm trying to share | 
May 21st, 2002, 10:57 AM
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Rep Power: 100 | | | Since there was some reference to "mystic" "qi-related" abilities, this would fit to the internal section. And then...
it's wrong.
So I would like to make a few points about this.
1. No inch punches exist. With similar or nearly identical mechanics in internal and external styles.
2. There is physical force involved, a LOT. Feels like short, strong spasms. Shooting off the ground upwards, or downwards through a kind of "jerk" in the spine letting you feel wringed out. The usual feeling of skin tingling also shows up. Exactly like when doing a form, however n times more of the amount. Should be related to the liquid which is moved out of the muscles through heavy "at-once" contraction, having to go somewhere - quick.
3. The massive back tumbling (NOT flying) seems to come from the receiving person getting compressed being scared, and letting go for avoiding the pressure by falling backwards. The released pressure gives them a final "push" so they couldn't find their balance until a wall comes or they somehow manage to get upright.
4. The only person I saw doing this over 5, 6 metres was a 60 years old Taiji master of approximately 120 kilos weight of MUSCLE, although concentrating in the belly area, waist and legs. He also could send people FLYING, but that was over a distance of maybe half a metre, with an "air stand" of slightly about half a metre.
5. From "fine touching", anyone always only lost balance and fell on their bottom. No flying, dying or falling asleep.
6. The shearing force produced by taking a high stance and letting yourself fall deep into a low expanding the fist by a huge distance is not internal. The internal mechanics is similar, but works using different systems. Might be to a large degree chemical, "afterburning" muscles.
7. After a long time of internal practices, there is a kind of emotional influence. However, I never saw anyone flying around from it, people merely went quiet, pale and forgot what they wanted. Ma Yueliang demonstrated to a friend the ability of raising my friends hairs on the arm not touching it. Just it was RAISING HAIRS, not shooting flames out of the eyes. People don't fly if they do not jump themselves, or get accelerated HEAVILY by a STRONG force. Internal arts CAN produce such a strong FORCE, and are designed to develop body to get it.
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May 21st, 2002, 11:12 AM
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Rep Power: 30 | | Nik agree with everything you write (particularly the there is a lot of physcialstuff going on in this sort of internal technique bit), but...
the thread is actually in External Styles, Miscellaneous 
RT
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May 21st, 2002, 12:11 PM
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Rep Power: 100 | | | Ooops. Saw only "Miscallaneous". Take it as addition. | 
May 23rd, 2002, 04:35 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | baichi...sorry...i guess i wasn't really clear on how to explain the technique....you are right on the physical force thing....i had mistaken it when i originally performed it, because it was kind of spontaneous and seemed so effortless....i guess my mind was clouded into beleiving that it didn't require physical force...but it did....now that i've thought about it......no hard feelings eh | 
June 3rd, 2002, 07:04 PM
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Rep Power: 39 | | I think the "one inch punch" is extremely effective, not just for show, and I find myself using it all the time.
Choki Motobu used to teach people to use their lead hands for striking, and I'm a firm believer. It's used best on the secondary rotation when your hands are stratiegically placed (on you opponent's shoulder for instance) where they can't see them. Then when he turns his head to look at you in order attack you again, all you do is make a fist, and plant it on his turning face. There is a lot more potential for destructive force when your target is moving toward you.
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June 3rd, 2002, 07:10 PM
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Rep Power: 10 | | | What about the famous *Bruce Lee*
He was known for his 1*inch Punch, he cultivated mostly from his Wing Chun training, and internal training too. I heard he studied 10 Arts, then I also hear he has done every art (BS) I THINK.
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