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November 12th, 2007, 03:59 AM
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November 12th, 2007, 06:45 AM
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guys that fought 3 x 3 mins in the ring on MMA rules seem to gas out after only 2 mins of full contact karate
also we had some guys with great ground skills that were "KO-ed" by just a few low kicks to the legs
and it seems to clean up their stand up techniques a lot as well
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November 12th, 2007, 01:28 PM
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November 12th, 2007, 03:00 PM
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Rep Power: 41 | | | My last school made some changes to how they where run, brought a jujitsu instructor in and instead of teaching the Karate everyone showed up for they learned some jujitsu that day instead which i disagree with. But that was how he did things. Just talk with your sifu or some of the higher ranking guys and see whats going on. As Cam said it could be a really good change of pace | 
November 12th, 2007, 07:49 PM
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Rep Power: 78 | | [quote=aaradia;315286] | “ | Sorry, you are absolutely correct and that is indeed what my school teaches also.
I should have used CLF (Choy Li Fut) instead of KF in my post. That is the external form of Kung Fu taught. Yang style Tai Chi is the internal form taught. | ” | |
Cam
You and aaradia are both right.
Kung fu is an all encompassing term that generally applies to all Chinese martial arts (internal and external) though is not limited to martial arts.
To be more specific aaradia would have said Choy Li Fut as his external style - and if he wanted to be even more specific would have identified the particular branch of Choy Li Fut. Tai Chi is used for the internal martial art Tai Chi Chuan but of course is also a generic term for more than one style of Tai Chi, such as Yang, Chen, Wu etc.
So to be specific aaradia would have said Yang Tai Chi Chuan.
But don’t confuse Tai Chi as being a general term for internal Chinese martial arts because other internal arts such as Bagua and Hsing'I are also internal, but are not Tai Chi.
… confused yet?  Anyway to simplify things people who study Chinese martial arts often use the term Kung Fu to just mean an external style of Chinese martial art, when the context of the conversation does not require one to specifically refer to the style, such as Choy Li Fut. In the same way Tai Chi is often used without reference to the style of Tai Chi (Yang, Chen, Wu etc) when the context does not require it. 
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November 12th, 2007, 08:06 PM
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Rep Power: 87 | | | “ | To be more specific aaradia would have said Choy Li Fut as his external style - and if he wanted to be even more specific | ” | |
that would be her external style and if she wanted.......  | “ | would have identified the particular branch of Choy Li Fut. | ” | |
That would be Hung Sing CLF | “ | So to be specific aaradia would have said Yang Tai Chi Chuan. | ” | |
Yeah, that is another way I get sloppy in terminology. I really need to add the Chuan when I say Tai Chi. (Chuan=Fist) and my school is very big on the martial aspect of Tai Chi Chuan. | “ |
… confused yet? Anyway to simplify things people who study Chinese martial arts often use the term Kung Fu to just mean an external style of Chinese martial art, when the context of the conversation does not require one to specifically refer to the style, | ” | |
Yup, that is pretty much what I was doing.
-aaradia
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November 12th, 2007, 08:19 PM
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I need to read between the lines better! 
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November 12th, 2007, 08:51 PM
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Oops! My apologies ma'am 
I need to read between the lines better!  | ” | |  No worries! Someone else on DL made the same mistake recently! It's very hard to tell on the Internet. I find it amusing.
But you obviously have not read some of the political theads I have posted on!  -feeling very butch 
-aaradia
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November 13th, 2007, 08:45 AM
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Rep Power: 100 | | | Cam, thought about doing training in a normal school gym ? That's how 99% of the german sports is done in clubs.
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November 13th, 2007, 08:49 PM
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I had heard that they were adding two things specifically as sparring rulesets:
San Shou
Pankration
These aren't bad things. Also, the guys who are going to be teaching the program? They compete in San Shou, San Da, Pankration and various grappling tournaments. It will be new and interesting, and you guys will find novel ways of applying your CLF in these rulesets.
Personally, I think it's exciting! Give it a try sometime, the Sifus have worked very very hard to make this come together and I think you'll be surprised with the work they've done. | 
December 31st, 2007, 01:59 PM
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Rep Power: 31 | | | I don't like how you describe the situation aaradia. And I am a huge proponent of MMA and the likes.
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I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis. | ” | | | 
December 31st, 2007, 02:58 PM
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Rep Power: 41 | | | Im not so big of fan of MMA but the addition to the curriculum doesnt in of its self sound horrible just the fact it sounds like they are almost hiding the Traditional. | 
December 31st, 2007, 03:20 PM
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Im not so big of fan of MMA but the addition to the curriculum doesnt in of its self sound horrible just the fact it sounds like they are almost hiding the Traditional. | ” | | | “ | CLF DEVIL: don't like how you describe the situation aaradia. And I am a huge proponent of MMA and the likes | ” | |
Yeah, you nailed it Green Horn- that's exactly what is bugging me! Couldn't have put it clearer than you did!
Well, so far except for the marketing I described and the addition of San Shou classes, nothing much has changed. I'll keep you all posted as things happen.I think the San Shou classes are a good addition.(Of course I might me missing something because I have been out a lot with my excruciatingly slow to heal injury problems-sigh!)
-aaradia
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December 31st, 2007, 03:27 PM
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I would even try adding San Shou to your schedual if you can handle it. I dont know what your work schedual is like. Mine barely affords me enough time to work out and spend time with my wife (and its worse when its Kung Fu night). But that all changes. Back to 9 hour shifts! | 
December 31st, 2007, 05:44 PM
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I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis. | ” | | | |
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