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December 13th, 2007, 02:20 AM
|  | GM of Chunky Cheese KF  | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Style(s): Striking & Grappling Year(s): too few
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December 13th, 2007, 02:40 AM
|  | <--theguychangingmyavatar   | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Land of Whales Style(s): Mei Hua Chuan/MMA Year(s): 21
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That was in response to Unk's horrible pun  |
December 13th, 2007, 02:57 AM
| | GM of Chunky Cheese KF | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Style(s): Striking & Grappling Year(s): too few
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December 13th, 2007, 03:05 AM
| | <--theguychangingmyavatar | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Land of Whales Style(s): Mei Hua Chuan/MMA Year(s): 21
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December 14th, 2007, 12:00 AM
| | GM of Chunky Cheese KF | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Style(s): Striking & Grappling Year(s): too few
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December 14th, 2007, 12:38 AM
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December 14th, 2007, 08:45 AM
|  | Fear is the Mind Killer | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MA Style(s): Long Men Jia Quan Year(s): 27
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December 14th, 2007, 12:08 PM
|  | Burninator | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Montreal, Canada Style(s): Sil Lum Hung Gar Year(s): since '98
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Rep Power: 19 | | ...well keep in mind these answers are personal, and I fully admit to enjoy being contrarian as well on some of these  .
that said here's why I wouldn't bother with the ones on my list:
1. Oomyung Do - made-up cultish bullsh1t
2. Shaolin Do - made-up cultish bullsh1t
3. Temple Kung Fu - made-up cultish bullsh1t
4. Ngfamily - jade_dragon_03
5. any kind of kempo/kenpo - why bother? (go to the source)
6. Liu He Ba Fa - fruity-hippy stuff, if you want internal go with the big 3
7. Pai Lum - based on kempo == see my answer in (5) above
8. Pankration - made-up cultish bullsh1t
9. Krav Maga - no base, no structure, overhyped
10. JKD - no base, no structure, overhyped
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December 14th, 2007, 01:01 PM
|  | Spanker of the Foolish | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Atlanta Style(s): Choy Li Fut Year(s): 25+
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#6... others besides big 3 too...
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December 14th, 2007, 07:06 PM
| | Fear is the Mind Killer | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MA Style(s): Long Men Jia Quan Year(s): 27
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Rep Power: 81 | | | I would say look into liu he more before solidifying your opinion. theres an incredible amount of complexity and depth there. .
I dont know you but i hope you are not one of those overly indoctrinated traditionalists.
I also think Pai Lum has developed a well deserved bad rap. They really screwed that system up (GM Pai being the worst). The family fighting method which is absolutely not based on kempo is great.
The delivery system is and has been horrendous. Thats where you get your Pinan forms and self defense sets, bad Hung gar, Some praying mantis really early on.
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December 18th, 2007, 10:46 AM
|  | Young Dragon | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Middleofnowhere Style(s): all around, everything Year(s): 1 lifetime
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Rep Power: 9 | | | “ | I also think Pai Lum has developed a well deserved bad rap. They really screwed that system up (GM Pai being the worst). The family fighting method which is absolutely not based on kempo is great. | ” | |
To much politics not enough emphasis on the fighting aspect. To worried about who has what. Depends upon the person u learned it off of to.
TKD (to much emphasis on certain aspect)
Karate (although traditional wouldn't be bad)
Ninjitsu (agree above stated)
Mcdojo's chain schools what ever they are now.... If your running 20 schools in different loc. then your probably a mcdojo (note I stated PROBABLY)
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December 18th, 2007, 03:04 PM
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6. Liu He Ba Fa - fruity-hippy stuff, if you want internal go with the big 3 | ” | |
Hmmm I wouldn't say that to any of Wai Lun Choi's guys....I have yet to meet better internal martial artists.
For me, instead of stating the arts I won't study, I'd rather focus on the ones I would.
For starters, if I could drop everything and study Li hu, Ba Fa, I would...Wai Lun Choi is retired, and I don't think any of his students teach openly.
Secondly, I would continue with my Tai Tzu Chang Chuan...especially since I had such a bad start with those Yang people claiming to teach it when they don't even know what it is...led to years of research and found real teachers in the style.
Third, White Ape Tong Bei. It is the oldest Long Fist system and more internal than not. Also a foundational style that Tai Tzu evolved form.
Southern Tai Tzu Quan, for obvious reasons, but maybe more Southern Mantis becasue of it's internal qualities and other attributes I have seen from those guys.
Lastly, anything that will help bring me further down the current path I am on.
As for styles I would avoid, anything that takes me FROM the current path I am on.
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December 18th, 2007, 05:08 PM
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December 18th, 2007, 06:53 PM
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December 18th, 2007, 09:42 PM
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sumo... getting into shape is not good for you in the long run...and it cuts way down on the number of women that would.... | ” | |
The wives of top rikishi are often very beautiful models, actresses, and TV annoucers.
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