What wouldn't you bother with?

sure some of the best money can buy

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I guess there are some schools I would not bother with, but it is more of things taught within a curriculum that I won't bother with. Like for any given TCMA school, I would never bother with learning any of the weapons. Or the lion dance. Or studying lineage. Or any of the high kicks. There's plenty of stuff to learn without doing stuff I don't think are conducive to my goals.

Though I agree there are several techniques that are less practical than others and several more that just isn't apart of my goals I dont think I would not learn something from a style that I started on. But I would avoid styles that have elements that I dont agree with or see as a contribution to my goals. Sports styles (or styles geared for competition) very styles that concentrate (sp?) on an area i dont want to concentrate on. ie styles thats main weapon is kicks.

“	Originally Posted By: beknar I guess there are some schools I would not bother with, but it is more of things taught within a curriculum that I won't bother with. Like for any given TCMA school, I would never bother with learning any of the weapons. Or the lion dance. Or studying lineage. Or any of the high kicks. There's plenty of stuff to learn without doing stuff I don't think are conducive to my goals.	”

Why study a TCMA then?

I mean, you can stick to basics and a few forms and work applications your whole life and you would have a very good skill. But you'd be missing out on some of the fun parts.

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“	Originally Posted By: Sammygirl Why study a TCMA then? I mean, you can stick to basics and a few forms and work applications your whole life and you would have a very good skill. But you'd be missing out on some of the fun parts.	”

Sure. But I think you should already know how to fight before learning the more 'advanced stuff'. That way, you have a platform, a delivery system for the fancy stuff. I sure as heck wouldn't miss out on THAT, that's for sure!

But for things like the broadsword? The 9 ring sword? That great looking three section staff? Limited applicability either in any real life venue I'm likely to be in and no applicability in any testing arena that I'm going to participate in. Same goes for things like the lion dance. There are plenty of people who want to carry that on and more power to them! Those aren't bad things, they're just things I wouldn't .. bother with.

I agree, but think of the 9 ring as a great way to build muscle and dynamic power

That does look like a challenging one.

The weapons you describe aren't taught in my school until the student has reached a high intermediate/advanced level. And we have to have some proficiency at basics before we can even pick up a staff.

But in the end, it's more important to do what makes you happy.

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I agree with needing to learn to fight free of "weapons" before learning weapons forms. But I tell yeah the lion dance is a workout of its own caliber. I love it the twice we have done it in my school. Works me out differently than my workouts usually leave me.

“	Originally Posted By: Green_Horn I agree with needing to learn to fight free of "weapons" before learning weapons forms..	”

I might add that our forms all have a section (usually the beginning) where we only hold the weapon, but use empty hand/ foot techniques. This is to remind us that we should still remember we can use all our body and not to only think of the weapon in hand.

-aaradia

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“	Originally Posted By: aaradia I might add that our forms all have a section (usually the beginning) where we only hold the weapon, but use empty hand/ foot techniques. This is to remind us that we should still remember we can use all our body and not to only think of the weapon in hand. -aaradia	”

It's also designed to coordinate the use of weapon with an empty hand, thus combining the effectiveness of the fighter, one hand with a weapon, the other empty to block/grab/parry

I have tried both ( weapons later and weapons first ) and I think learning weapons first has many advantages, provided your weapon techniques transition well over to barehand like in FMA.

Well since I have tried weapons later and now it seems weapons forms start fairly early in CLF the Jury will be out on what my opinion is. Though as several have said there does seem to be some advantages to sooner rather than later.

“	Originally Posted By: mok 1. Oomyung Do 2. Shaolin Do 3. Temple Kung Fu 4. Ngfamily 5. any kind of kempo/kenpo 6. Liu He Ba Fa 7. Pai Lum 8. Pankration 9. Krav Maga and lastly... 10. JKD	”

I assume you mean Ng Family Style Kung Fu that Great Grandmaster Dr. Wing Loc Johnson Ng teaches in Kentucky or do you mean the other Ng kung fu? There are several NG's that teach kung fu. If you are talking about the Ng Kung Fu style from Kentucky, why do you list it as one you wouldn't study? Grandmaster Ng and his style of kung fu are very well known and most of it's practitioners are well respected and knowledgable about martial arts. Everyone is entitled to thier own oppinion though.

I wouldn't be interested in studying Shaolin Do Karate, Savate, Capeira, or Muey Thai.

I study a mix of Sil Lum Kung Fu and Ng Family Style Kung Fu (from Grandmaster Dr. Wing Loc Johnson Ng).

"6 Harmony (liu He) Style Kung Fu Info Page"

http://www.6harmonies.com/index2.php...do_pdf=1&id=13

http://www.shaolinconcepts.com/conte...r_Stephens.pdf

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