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So why, when presumably you had other options, did you decide to start studying KF, and why have you stuck with it?

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Wolfgang says:

I could think of a million better things to do in Japan for a month besides jumping off of picnic tables. - x893

because kung fu is the coolest thing on earth....

and the training teaches ya more than just a single leg take down...

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all hail Martyr Fakka

Because it offered me more than anything to date at the time I trained before had, it was taught more practical and realistic, it was more fun, the guys I trained with became surrogate brothers & family and it was a rarer style of CMA so the opportunity to train something that few do was a cool thing.
Those are my reasons basically, it's been good to me and I've gone far in my style to the point of being only 1 of 4 authorized to instruct and having the second school in the world, only I and the US school exist, so we feel the need to spread the knowledge, skills, lineage and history to keep it alive and make it flourish as we can.

Much like Mei Hua said. Except my style's no longer super-rare, but still it's always kind of a surprise how many more ppl are training in JMA and know little/nothing of CMA.

WL was recommended by a friend and it fit me well.

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"Whatever the case, it proves that countless disasters can be prevented by simply assuming everyone you're working with is a moron." ~ Adam Brown, 5 Tiny Mistakes...

I started training in Wing Chun because it was the style James Sinclair taught. I had seen him in action and knew how good he was, I wanted an opportunity to train with him so when came up, the style wasn't as important as the opportunity to train with someone really good!

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Judo as a child, then boxing and wrestling in high school (plus fencing, archery etc), so the KF just tied it all together with a synergy. Dabbled in a little other stuff, but the KF is my home and my family.
Healing arts are just a bonus, like icing!

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“	Originally Posted By: chief108 because kung fu is the coolest thing on earth.... and the training teaches ya more than just a single leg take down...	”

LOL. If it taught a descent single it would be that much closer to the coolest thing on earth!

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Wolfgang says:

I could think of a million better things to do in Japan for a month besides jumping off of picnic tables. - x893

Heritage, and it's a badass, efficient, and graceful way of fighting.

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“	Originally Posted By: KungFuMan I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis.	”

CMA is the most brutal art I've studied to date. MMA/Thai Boxing is PRIMARILY focused for ring fighting.

That is what people are getting confused.

They get confused because alot of TMA/CMA guys can't fight for crap, and MMA guys dominate.

That's simply due to crap teachers, schools, training methods, etc, etc. But that is not to say they should be excused.

HOWEVER, having studied submission wrestling/BJJ, Pankration, MMA, Kickboxing/MT etc; these systems are not dedicated killing arts. They do not specifically teach you to go "hey, you need to do this/this/this to make sure this guy ends up really hurt really really fast."

Alog of MMA tactics also resolve around wearing the opponent down over rounds, etc. People need to understand that while MMA/NHB training WILL make you into a fighting machine and a cardio god, the systems themselves are not INHERENT killing arts, and that is not their intention.

Having gone back to my CMA roots, I believe CMA to be still more PURE in the historical context of the martial arts, aka the killing arts.

On another note, if you don't train alive or realistically, none of your killing techniques will freaking work and you're the one that's gonna be killed/owned/pawned/GG'ed/QQ'ed so there.

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“	Originally Posted By: KungFuMan I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis.	”

Oh boy, here we go...

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Wolfgang says:

I could think of a million better things to do in Japan for a month besides jumping off of picnic tables. - x893

Arrgh...

Before anyone comes in to defend MMA's honor or whatever, please let's just keep the thread limited to the topic at hand. If anyone wants to respond to CLF Devil's post start a new thread or post a link to an old thread where this argument's already been done. We should have several that will suffice.

/preemptive strike
//please, please, work...

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chi sau

its such a great game

soon as i started playing that was it

hooked

(sure would be good if that pre-emptive strike works)

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I'm at this school primarily because the guys hit hard. I played with one of their junior instructors for a bit before signing up, and the power was stronger and different than anything I'd felt up until that time. It wasn't just the power, it was the level of co-ordination and technique that led to how hard he was hitting. They also held absolutely no illusions or delusions about fighting on the ground. You get taken down, you're going to need to know something, so go join a BJJ school. They are also very open to fighting in various MMA rulesets/competitions like sport MMA, pankration, and San Shou.

Last but not least, they are willing and able to fight either with gloves or bare knuckle.

MMA doesn't need to be defended. It works pure and simple. I am simply stating what my opinion on the inherent differences are between a pure sport MMA and classical TCMA. I believe that most MMA fighters will still dominate people from the CMA crowd. But that has NOTHING to do with the inherent nature of TCMAs, and why it also works if trained correctly (e.g. in a MMA-like environment).

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“	Originally Posted By: KungFuMan I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis.	”

“	Originally Posted By: CLF Devil MMA doesn't need to be defended. It works pure and simple. I am simply stating what my opinion on the inherent differences are between a pure sport MMA and classical TCMA. I believe that most MMA fighters will still dominate people from the CMA crowd. But that has NOTHING to do with the inherent nature of TCMAs, and why it also works if trained correctly (e.g. in a MMA-like environment).	”

From what I hear, the way they used to train was an MMA-like environment, ie, a ramp up in aliveness all the way to full sparring. Some of us still train like this.

Good to see you back, Miluo. Stirring up trouble like always.