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January 13th, 2008, 01:09 AM
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Rep Power: 87 | | | “ | 47MartialMan;321639A lot of martial artists dont practice uppercuts as it ressembles boxing rather than the Asian projection. | ” | |
Huh? I have never heard of MAists avoiding a type of strike solely because it resembles a strike in another type of MA.  What a weird concept.
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January 13th, 2008, 01:11 AM
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Rep Power: 4 | | | As I stated, I started this thread as a method to discuss the move.
I think the views of others, in some cases, are more important than mine of such discussions.
In some cases, equaled to mine.
And in others, opposite with some meaningful repsonses.
What does it matter, if it is a cut and paste job? Especially if it is something I wrote?
If it is something someone else wrote, I would stated something like "on another forum another member mentioned"... | 
January 13th, 2008, 09:00 AM
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Rep Power: 100 | | | One of the reasons it matters is you make statements that are wrong. A lot of people read these threads that do not post and they may be fooled into thinking the information is being given by a martial artist. That is misleading and not good for the forum.
When it is clearly stated that you are asking in order to learn something then it is not misleading and others that do know what they are talking about will answer. Those types of threads are why people log on to the forum.
Perhaps you might want to think about how you present topics as your threads are all turning into a series of complaints which is about to end.
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January 13th, 2008, 10:11 AM
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Rep Power: 36 | | | The uppercut is pretty common in many forms, including, (but not limited to): western boxing, Muay Thai, Long Fist, (as mentioned), Tang Lang, Hsing-I, Kyokshin Karate...whatever, you see what I mean. It is common in many styles b/c it flows naturally within the range of normal human mechanics, and, yes, it works. So, most ppl have heard of the uppercut and practice it within their normal training routines. Now, that being said, if there is newly unearthed information regarding the science of the uppercut, I'd like to hear it. Otherwise, yeah, let's move on to something else...
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January 13th, 2008, 02:06 PM
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Posted By: WuSung 
The uppercut is pretty common in many forms, including, (but not limited to): western boxing, Muay Thai, Long Fist, (as mentioned), Tang Lang, Hsing-I, Kyokshin Karate...whatever, you see what I mean. It is common in many styles b/c it flows naturally within the range of normal human mechanics, and, yes, it works. So, most ppl have heard of the uppercut and practice it within their normal training routines. Now, that being said, if there is newly unearthed information regarding the science of the uppercut, I'd like to hear it. Otherwise, yeah, let's move on to something else...
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January 13th, 2008, 04:53 PM
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Rep Power: 168 | | | “ | If it is something someone else wrote, I would stated something like "on another forum another member mentioned"... | ” | |
You mean just like you did in your "UFC Hoax" thread?!?!?!?!
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January 13th, 2008, 08:30 PM
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Posted By: 47MartialMan 
The point, as with any forum, is to dicuss or communicate.
Forget the author;
Do you like the article?
Do you like uppercuts?
Do I have to post questions at the end of each thread to get responses? | ” | |
The problem 47, is that you usually just post a random statement that is generally a statement of the bleeding obvious, or alternatively (as in the case of the opening post) a statement that lacks much credence, and leave it as that.
Other posters are then forced to try and squeeze out of you what you are actually trying to say, which it seems, usually turns into a game of cat and mouse where you avoid saying anything constructive about your point of view. However, when you do finally commit yourself to some sort of explanation to back up your previously posted statements, it is generally obvious to people who have studied martial arts that you are just making stuff up on the fly and do not really have much appreciation of martial arts... eg: | “ | A lot of martial artists dont practice uppercuts as it ressembles boxing rather than the Asian projection. | ” | |
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January 13th, 2008, 09:06 PM
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Rep Power: 100 | | | I would consider the replys posted after direct questions to be an attempt to continue the BS by ignoring the posts. This has happened in every thread...47 is going to take a break.
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January 18th, 2008, 05:16 AM
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Rep Power: 41 | | | In Choy Lee Fut Bagua Hands the Uppercut is one of the moves taught....at least in my school. | 
January 18th, 2008, 10:00 AM
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Posted By: Green_Horn 
In Choy Lee Fut Bagua Hands the Uppercut is one of the moves taught....at least in my school. | ” | |
Jong/Fan Jong is standard fare in CLF... no matter the branch. CLF shares all the hands, feet & horses. Differences come in applications, forms & politics.
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January 18th, 2008, 12:55 PM
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Rep Power: 31 | | | Fang Jon yeah. I don't like to give many names to similar things. I interpret Fan Jong as nothing more than a regular uppercut. It should be used that way . . . .
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Posted By: KungFuMan 
I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis. | ” | | | 
January 18th, 2008, 01:25 PM
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Posted By: clfsean 
....& politics. | ” | |
Yep....  ,
can't we all just  ???
Pau Choy?
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January 18th, 2008, 01:58 PM
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Posted By: Green_Horn 
In Choy Lee Fut Bagua Hands the Uppercut is one of the moves taught....at least in my school. | ” | |
You're Chan Family, aren't you? We use that same terminology at my place .. the Bagua Hands. | 
January 18th, 2008, 02:05 PM
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Posted By: beknar 
You're Chan Family, aren't you? We use that same terminology at my place .. the Bagua Hands. | ” | |
He studies with one your sifu's hingdai here in Ga.
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January 18th, 2008, 02:07 PM
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Posted By: bobblehead 
Yep.... ,
can't we all just ???
Pau Choy? | ” | |
Pow Choy for Peace beyotches!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pow Choy = Fan Jong in some lines. I've done both names for the same punch in CLF.
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