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June 11th, 2008, 06:34 AM
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June 11th, 2008, 06:43 AM
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Rep Power: 59 | | ..never mind, centertao.com? Google is awesome.
That and i spotted this to double check: | “ | hence always rid yourself of desires in order to observes its secrets | ” | |
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June 11th, 2008, 06:52 AM
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although i dont really like their commentries that much
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June 11th, 2008, 06:53 AM
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June 11th, 2008, 07:05 AM
| | Fong Pei Jai | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hawai'i Style(s): Choy Lay Fut/Hung Gar Year(s): 10+cma
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Rep Power: 59 | | I have a couple, this is my fave, Amazon.com: Tao te Ching: Lao Tzu, Jonathan Star: Books
great commentary, direct character definitions and comparisons between works among other things make this one unique.
The Gia-Fu Feng/Jane English one is nice as well, and probably the most common nowadays ime.
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June 11th, 2008, 07:58 AM
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Rep Power: 149 | | some pretty good review for teh star one
might check it out
i'm not that interested in commentries
but the translation stuff looks interesting
cheers bobble 
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June 11th, 2008, 09:46 AM
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Posted By: fieryhorse 
Back to the original question- IMHO, Pa-Qua Zhang is the best, if you can master it! That's what China's Imperial bodyguards were trained in. Equally, Ninjitsu can also be considered as such - "dirty fighting" or not, the end result is what counts! | ” | |
The downside is that Bagua is considered the "newest" TCMA, and there are a lot of people that don't know Bagua that are polluting the population. So its hard to find or even know what "real" Bagua is.
Baji still beats it though. 
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June 11th, 2008, 02:08 PM
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Posted By: Pope_Wingnut
some pretty good review for teh star one
might check it out
i'm not that interested in commentries
but the translation stuff looks interesting
cheers bobble | ” | |
Yeah it breaks down each verse by the character....
actually that makes me feel a little  , but i am learning....
Aloha.
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July 1st, 2008, 07:48 PM
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Posted By: WraithAlcon
The downside is that Bagua is considered the "newest" TCMA, and there are a lot of people that don't know Bagua that are polluting the population. So its hard to find or even know what "real" Bagua is.
Baji still beats it though. | ” | |
Well, I chose my name here as this is my animal birth sign ( 1966). So, no matter how old, I always been true to it.
As for systems, I would also name Bak Mei ( related discussion, history). I've read somewhere that this monk and his students had even once captured the Forbidden City! But that was before Pa-Kua was developed. | “ | A middle-to-short range system Pak Mei is distinguished by its footwork and the unique "hunting steps." The Phoenix Eye Fist is particularly emphasized along with whipping hands resembling FuJian White Crane Boxing. Steps are small and circular with great rooting. It also uses the concept of, Subduing Two Hands with One. If you see Pak Mei you witness a dynamic style where whipping, cutting and poking motions mix in a subtle and aggressive manner. It's basic four word formula is: Exhalation, Inhalation, Float and Sink. | ” | |
And I hope you like this site- Taoism - Stan Rosenthal's Tao Te Ching - Translation  |
July 2nd, 2008, 03:22 AM
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Rep Power: 41 | | | Why is this thread still going ? What kind of question is "Best Kung Fu System" ? "favorite ?" sure, but as soon as someone starts talking "i think ******* is the best system of ...... " I smell serious BS a brewin'.
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July 2nd, 2008, 07:36 AM
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July 2nd, 2008, 07:40 AM
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July 2nd, 2008, 12:46 PM
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July 2nd, 2008, 04:21 PM
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Posted By: aqira
The best style is the one that just beat you | ” | |
Best answer that I have seen so far. 
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July 6th, 2008, 10:09 PM
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Rep Power: 3 | | | the best style is "Popeye style",..ak,ak,ak, whao' blows me down! but, seriously; Shang-Tung Hei-Hu & Hak Fu Mun & Fu Jow Pai are the only "Tiger" styles I've heard of, other than the 'Tiger' forms,movements,techniques in Shao-Lin 5-Animals ,Hung-Gar(of course'),and Qi-Gong systems that have Tiger postures/movements. I like Chi-Xing Tang-Long(7-star Praying-Mantis) & Lao Ho Chwen(Monkey-Fist) | |
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