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Old June 15th, 2008, 11:00 PM
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Lei Tai match, Hop Ga vs. Hung Ga



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As much as I want to initiate a bashing...I'm going to refrain because at least they are up there trying. Most people freak out their first time on the Lei Tai and forget all of their training...and that's mainly because of improper training or unrealistic training.

But to be fair, it takes some balls to step up and actually compete in the Lei Tai. Its not point sparring. But hopefully both guys take some new lessons home after the match.
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Credit for enthusiasm, tenacity, and being willing to fight like that in front of people.


This sort of thing always make me feel better about my own sparring...
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what does 'hop ga' mean in english?

pretty scrapy at first esp the guy with the white helmet
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Old June 17th, 2008, 09:11 AM
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Hop Ga mean "knight family" or "knight clan".

It's one of the offshoots of Tibetan "Lion's Roar" kungfu, so a sister style to Lama Pai and Tibetan white crane (which are basically the same thing as Hop Ga, with minor differences).
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ga = clan/family ?
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ga / gar = jia = "family"
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As a sidebar, does anyone else have any good Lei Tai clips to share?
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Lei Tai is the name of the platform. I think its translation is something like "Drum-Beating Stage". Its used to be the dias that people fought on to show how awesome their kung fu was.
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As much as I want to initiate a bashing...I'm going to refrain because at least they are up there trying. Most people freak out their first time on the Lei Tai and forget all of their training...and that's mainly because of improper training or unrealistic training.

But to be fair, it takes some balls to step up and actually compete in the Lei Tai. Its not point sparring. But hopefully both guys take some new lessons home after the match.

well said...
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Lei means drum & tai means platform. The verb for leitai fighting is da (to hit), so leitai fighting directly translates as "beating the drum platform".

Traditionally, someone, usually a newcomer or a new school, announces that they will "raise a drum platform" at a certain time & place, meaning he/they will take on all comers. Traditional etiquette is to withdraw if it is obvious the other fighter is better than you.

Leitai is technically illegal in China, due to the frequency of death & dismemberment. They still happen in rural areas. The police usually ignore them as long as they don't fight with sharpened weapons or hospitalize too many participants. I've never seen any, since foreigners attending illegal events makes the local government nervous, but a few people I've trained with have taken part.

I don't mind what the guy in the black headgear in the second clip is doing. There's some moments where he's using proper stances to get in place for an attack, and as a block/guard against takedowns. His techniques are still pretty sloppy, but I'd rather see someone positioning well and staying solid than applying pretty techniques that don't work because you're in the wrong place or because the opponent moved. Judging from their height relative to the ref, they're probably not seasoned veterans. If black headgear guy continues to learn to drop his weight and gets a few effective techniques under his belt, he might be pretty decent. I find the others are too "tippy".

My overall impression is that the techniques they're throwing aren't terribly effective, but they're throwing them in the right spots at the right time. My own bias is that I'd rather see good positioning in beginners, because the techniques will come with time & practice.

Anyhoo, I'm off to get married, so I won't be around to defend my opinions for a few weeks.
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On a sidebar, here is another Lei Tai fight I found on the YouTube. It has its moments.

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