SoCal "Garage Fu" Fight Club

Fakk!! I'm in Atlanta from the 11th to the 14th in september.

If you guys decide to change it to the weekend after I'm game.

Otherwise maybe every month or every couple of months we can do this.

I'm hoping every month. Beknar also said he is free from the 20th to 21st. So those days might be better for everyone? Also gives me more time to prepare hehe.

On another note:

I REALLY REALLY REALLY need to quit cigarettes. This will force me to quit.

I tried smoking just now, I just did 1.5 hours of CLF - nothing but drills and combinations at full blast. When I tried smoking, it felt like my lungs were rejecting the nicotine.

So yeah. But I'm working on it. :/

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“	Originally Posted By: KungFuMan I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis.	”

“	Our specialization is joint manipulation, but we don't limit ourselves to that. We have something at every range, but I myself am more of a stand-up guy. I wouldn't mind working on the ground more.	”

I don't understand... if you specialize in joint manipulation then your specialty should be ground fighting, not stand-up. Joint manipulation while standing is replete with variables. The use of the ground as a third party in a fight is the primary principle of ground fighting and joint manipulation as it reduces the variables.

I am just having trouble understanding the emphasis on principle here.... Any style that claims joint manipulation as a specialty but neglects the basic principle of using the ground as a third party seems negligent...

It's kind of like saying "Our specialty is knockouts but we favor the ground game more..."....

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Cam
"Raise up your mind....."

Not exactly the same. There is a difference in ground grappling and stand up joint manipulation.

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Oooh, look the Korean stylist used Chinese
http://www.dragonslist.com/discussio...read-ever.html

I'm well aware of the vast difference. That is my point. Stand-up joint manipulation is based on low percentage, relatively ineffective principles. It would seem that anyone that wanted to "specialize" in joint manipulation would gravitate towards the more fundamentally based principles of such.

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Cam
"Raise up your mind....."

Even though I'm not a grappler per se, I have to agree with Cam on this point. I've been experimenting with my Qinna (Chin na) techniques that I learned in Wing Chun so far. I find that some of them work even better when slightly modified and having the ground as a third party helps a great deal.

In my experience, realistic stand-up locks/joint manipulation, often begins with the clinch or during a FUT ( F***ed Up Tangle. Southnark's term. ). The clinch situation in live sparring, will end up on the ground more than half the time ( that is a modest stat ).

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Have to agree there. Lost count of how many times I've gone to the ground during a grapple/clinch.

Yep that's why I'm keen on learning BJJ, hopefully I have the time/money to learn it relatively soon.

I need to get my CLF polished more though. It's a bit rusty.

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“	Originally Posted By: KungFuMan I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis.	”

I would learn the BJJ first then go back and polish the CLF. Trust me... after learning BJJ you will look at CLF a lot differently... I know after I learned the ground game I had to go back and re-evaluate everything I thought I knew about the stand-up game.

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Cam
"Raise up your mind....."

You make a valid point. I want to learn straight up BJJ (or submission wrestling, etc) not an MMA school/curriculum. Is there any in the Los Angeles area that you recommend Cam?

Thanks.

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“	Originally Posted By: KungFuMan I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis.	”

LA is a very big area and I am sure there are a LOT of schools there. Can you be more specific to your location?

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Cam
"Raise up your mind....."

I live in Westwood (UCLA area), next to Santa Monica basically.

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“	Originally Posted By: KungFuMan I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis.	”

I'll see what I can find.

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Cam
"Raise up your mind....."

I have to say I got tromped on this morning. Did some sparring with a guy who trains in Muay Thai. While his ground fighting was worse than mine (Thank God), but his striking.... I'm going to be black and blue for sometime.