Advice on which seminar to take?

“	Originally Posted By: clfsean oooohhh... how original with the comebacks on the handle. I am the forum rat.	”

You should be sorry. I accept your apology.

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“	Originally Posted By: Jade_Dragon_03 I DID NOT spout off at the mouth as you so put it. I was giving sincere advice on what I thought would be the best choice (thinking it was an animal style). It could have happened to anyone. As I have stated, there are numerous animal styles. How could I have known that this 5 Dragon Cudgel wasn't part of Dragon Style Kung Fu unless I'm a practitioner of Doc Fai Wong's style and knew it. Your the one spewing at the mouth about me. I have done nothing to you but yet you still want to lambast me.	”

Yeah... you do. I've watched you since you came on this forum & others that I'm a member of. You spout... you pontificate... you have a mix of arrogance & ignorance in almost everything you say. Talk about lambasting, has anybody seen you rail against SD?

I'm a tad arrogant to be sure, but I also have a habit of not speaking when I don't know. I tend to listen, look & learn, as opposed to seeing if my yoga classes pay off by allowing me to get my whole leg in my mouth.

The smart money is on sitting & listening. You didn't & so I pointed it out. Maybe it was a little more acerbic than I normally would, but you caught me at a bad time. Get past it, wipe your nose & move along. I have.

BTW... I didn't apologize on that other post. I don't know where that emoticon came from, but that's not what I picked.

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“	Originally Posted By: WraithAlcon As an impartial observer...I'm gonna have to side with JD here. He assumed the 5 Dragon Cudgel was based on Dragon and offered a rationale as to by this might be tough to learn.	”

That's cool... he didn't listen to what was said above & by whom. Several CLF people responded to a question put out by a CLF player. Kinda obvious when she was talking about GM Wong.

I dunno... maybe that was a stretch for him to read all of the replies from people with CLF in their name or background.

“	Originally Posted By: WraithAlcon I think you might have flipped out a bit prematurely...and unfortunately JD tends to flip out equally in response! XD	”

Nah I didn't flip prematurely. Honestly I didn't. I just don't tolerate the fool very well. It'd be one thing if he'd asked or even prefaced with "Hey I don't know anything about CLF, but in my experience.. .". That's a whole different ball of wax that could've led to a productive conversation. Instead he does his normal, injecting himself with useless info into something he knows nothing about. I equate that about as equally beneficial to his whole "Who's your favorite pornstar..." thread.

You brought up Push hands. Good, solid level advice & info. My suggestion for aaradia on the push hands is to also take it. My sifu did push hands with GM Wong the last time he was there & said he's off the chart. Also hit the Elephant too. Solid fighting in it & not what people expect in CLF.

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“	Originally Posted By: clfsean Nah I didn't flip prematurely. Honestly I didn't. I just don't tolerate the fool very well.	”

There are better ways of getting your point across than flipping out. You could have just said, "Hey, the form is more advanced for different reasons. Although its called 5-Dragon Cudgel form, it doesn't follow the classic Shaolin Dragon concept. Its more of just a fun name for smashing stuff with hammers". But your aggressive response put JD on the defensive and you two (with my help) have derailed the thread from its original purpose.

The internetz r srs bsns, I know. But try and relax and just have fun with the forums. When you get in angry back-and-forth arguments the only people who win are the casual observers looking for some entertainment.

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“	Originally Posted By: clfsean Yeah... you do. I've watched you since you came on this forum & others that I'm a member of. You spout... you pontificate... you have a mix of arrogance & ignorance in almost everything you say. Talk about lambasting, has anybody seen you rail against SD? I'm a tad arrogant to be sure, but I also have a habit of not speaking when I don't know. I tend to listen, look & learn, as opposed to seeing if my yoga classes pay off by allowing me to get my whole leg in my mouth. The smart money is on sitting & listening. You didn't & so I pointed it out. Maybe it was a little more acerbic than I normally would, but you caught me at a bad time. Get past it, wipe your nose & move along. I have. BTW... I didn't apologize on that other post. I don't know where that emoticon came from, but that's not what I picked.	”

You know what you caught me at a bad time too. So why don't you just shut your pie hole.

Also, yeah you did apologize. Just look at the little icon, it says so.

“	Originally Posted By: WraithAlcon As an impartial observer...I'm gonna have to side with JD here. He assumed the 5 Dragon Cudgel was based on Dragon and offered a rationale as to by this might be tough to learn. I think you might have flipped out a bit prematurely...and unfortunately JD tends to flip out equally in response! XD	”

Thanks Wraith for being impartial.
As you can see from my first post I was trying to be insightful despite that fact that I was wrong about 5 Dragon Cudgel being from dragon style kung fu. But still yet, a person could gain some knowledge about drogan style kung fu from my post if one did not know anything about that particular style. So it wasn't a total waste of a post.

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Nana ka maka;
ho`olohe ka pepeiao;
pa`a ka waha.

Thus one learns.

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I would go with the push hands. Why? Well yes, GM Wong teaches it at other seminars and will probably teach it many many times again, BUT. Push hands has some very applicable fight skills attached to it. Learning with the GM and re-learning it at a later time from the same guy is very helpful.

DFW is _infamous_ for his push hands skills. He brought the first US team to the push hands tournaments in china. And they WON. What does that mean? That he both has the skill and he knows how to transmit it. Getting applicable skills for use in fighting is the ultimate goal for many of us.

Is push hands the same as sticky hands?

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“	Originally Posted By: Jade_Dragon_03 Is push hands the same as sticky hands?	”

Google is the answer my friend.

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“	Originally Posted By: KungFuMan I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis.	”

This is to Unk and Sammygirl........you two both gave me an infraction for disrespectful posts. I would like to know if clfsean recieved a infraction as well. You can not tell me that these post that I have quoted are not disrespectful. I have quoted someone else who is an impartial observer stating that it was a little uncalled for.

“	Originally Posted By: clfsean Yeah... you do. I've watched you since you came on this forum & others that I'm a member of. You spout... you pontificate... you have a mix of arrogance & ignorance in almost everything you say. Talk about lambasting, has anybody seen you rail against SD? I'm a tad arrogant to be sure, but I also have a habit of not speaking when I don't know. I tend to listen, look & learn, as opposed to seeing if my yoga classes pay off by allowing me to get my whole leg in my mouth. The smart money is on sitting & listening. You didn't & so I pointed it out. Maybe it was a little more acerbic than I normally would, but you caught me at a bad time. Get past it, wipe your nose & move along. I have. BTW... I didn't apologize on that other post. I don't know where that emoticon came from, but that's not what I picked.	”

Here is an impartial person's observation on the posts.

“	Originally Posted By: WraithAlcon As an impartial observer...I'm gonna have to side with JD here. He assumed the 5 Dragon Cudgel was based on Dragon and offered a rationale as to by this might be tough to learn. I think you might have flipped out a bit prematurely...and unfortunately JD tends to flip out equally in response! XD	”

Once again here is another disrespectful post. Was an infraction given for this? Probably not but what else is new.

“	Originally Posted By: clfsean No...here's what's clear... you don't know, yet you spout off at the mouth like a fountain. If you don't know or aren't sure... ask. Anybody would gladly give info, including me with a smile. BUT... when you going shooting off your mouth about something you don't know anything about... well... you've already proved the ass part.	”

I would appreciate a response to my complaint by the mods.

Thanks,
Mark Reed

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“	Originally Posted By: WraithAlcon There are better ways of getting your point across than flipping out. You could have just said, "Hey, the form is more advanced for different reasons. Although its called 5-Dragon Cudgel form, it doesn't follow the classic Shaolin Dragon concept. Its more of just a fun name for smashing stuff with hammers". But your aggressive response put JD on the defensive and you two (with my help) have derailed the thread from its original purpose. The internetz r srs bsns, I know. But try and relax and just have fun with the forums. When you get in angry back-and-forth arguments the only people who win are the casual observers looking for some entertainment.	”

So true. Thats funny.

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“	Originally Posted By: Jade_Dragon_03 I would appreciate a response to my complaint by the mods. Thanks, Mark Reed	”

Official Mod Response:

Quit whining.

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“	Originally Posted By: Sammygirl Official Mod Response: Quit whining.	”

Real profesional response there Sammygirl. I wish i could be more like you. Your so awesome and cool and a few other things that I can't say. Period!!!

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“	Originally Posted By: CLF Devil Google is the answer my friend.	”

Alright my friend, will do. Thanks for the help. I appreciate it. Anytime you need a question answered don't hesitate to ask me. I'll google it for you.

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