|
View Poll Results: What is more useful in a self-defense scenario? | |
Grappling
|     | 6 | 24.00% | |
Striking
|    | 19 | 76.00% |
 | | 
June 18th, 2003, 08:52 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Islamic Republic of Pakistan Year(s): 4
Posts: 86
Rep Power: 0 | | | Grappling vs Striking
Which is more useful in a self defense scenario
Last edited by Way of Kyokushinkai!; June 18th, 2003 at 08:54 AM.
|
June 18th, 2003, 09:15 AM
|  | Weathered Post Master   | | Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,085
Rep Power: 78 | | | defense against one, two, three or more
__________________
May the force be with y'all.
|
June 18th, 2003, 10:46 AM
|  | Smashesfistw/face  | | Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Mountain West - USA Year(s): Lost track, dont care, but its not long enough.
Posts: 1,928
Rep Power: 34 | | | Neither, you just do what comes.
__________________
"You're lucky buddhism teaches freedom from desire, because I have the desire to kick your ass!"  -Richard Gere- from the Simpsons
|
June 18th, 2003, 11:43 AM
|  | Venerable Student | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Washington in the North East of England Style(s): Wado Ryu Karate/Wing Chun Year(s): 21 years
Posts: 974
Rep Power: 16 | | | It depends on the situation but in my limited experience I would think that striking would serve ME better. Not sure about everyone else though.
__________________
The best form of defence is attack!! |
June 18th, 2003, 11:47 AM
|  | Dragon's List Allumni | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Style(s): Kung Fu & Stuff Year(s): Since 1989
Posts: 6,323
Rep Power: 111 | | The movements for striking are the same movements for grappling. Once that is understood the line between grappling and striking blurs and all becomes combat.
With that said I would find striking/pushing more useful, especially when faced with multiple attackers and escape is my goal. 
__________________
"You must eat bitter before you can taste sweet"- Iron & Silk
"I see no virtue where I smell no sweat"
"Arm yourself because no one else here will save you" - Chris Cornell
|
June 18th, 2003, 11:57 AM
| | Venerable Student | | Join Date: May 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio Style(s): Tien Shan Pai & Yang TC Year(s): Since 1991
Posts: 314
Rep Power: 12 | | | In self-defense your goal is to escape safe. I would think the preferred SD attack would be from a standing position, striking to create the distance necessary to escape. Escape is a lot slower when grappling; when you're in that close, he can always re-grab you.
I would only grapple if we naturally go down to the ground, or if it's not a true self-defense situation (fighting without the intent to hurt) when I want to subdue him.
I hope this doesn't degenerate into a "should you learn to grapple, then" argument.
WhiteBirch |
June 18th, 2003, 12:03 PM
|  | I Am LEGEND!!! | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami Gardens, FL Style(s): Black Tiger Year(s): Infant
Posts: 3,957
Rep Power: 66 | |  Which is more useful in a self defense scenario?
whichever the situation calls for!
Striking is not always going to be the answer in self defense neither is grappling.
Sometimes neither is the answer when you can just walk/run away!
jeff 
__________________
History will be kind to me for I intend to write it ~ Sir Winston Churchill |
June 18th, 2003, 12:39 PM
| | Weathered Post Master | | Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,085
Rep Power: 78 | | | that's why i asked the question.
if more than one avoid grappling at all cost unless you want your head/face kicked in by buddies.
it all depends.
__________________
May the force be with y'all.
|
June 18th, 2003, 03:22 PM
|  | Wandering Vermonter | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Vermont Style(s): Boxing/Kickboxing & WC Year(s): 2.5 "about
Posts: 560
Rep Power: 12 | | | If it against multiple people then definitely striking
But against one then I'd open up with a strike then go to grappling.
But thats just me....
Matt,
__________________
The only thing neccesary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Edmund Burke,
|
June 18th, 2003, 03:29 PM
| | I Am LEGEND!!! | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami Gardens, FL Style(s): Black Tiger Year(s): Infant
Posts: 3,957
Rep Power: 66 | | | That could be a mistake!
Matt,
What happens when you take that person to the ground ,and they're better and more at home there than you
you never thought about that scenerio did you
Just because you're ok on the ground does'nt mean that you might not meet someone far more advanced then you there.You've just put yourself at their mercy.Sowhere you never want o be in a fight. Because they might not have any mercy for you!
jeff
__________________
History will be kind to me for I intend to write it ~ Sir Winston Churchill |
June 18th, 2003, 03:33 PM
| | Weathered Post Master | | Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,085
Rep Power: 78 | | | nah nah nah nah nah,
Matt,
Against multiple, It's neck wrenching for the fisrt/closet/weakest and use as shield and bargaining chip dude. Or the leader of the pack.
Or if you got your nikes on, haul a$$
__________________
May the force be with y'all.
|
June 18th, 2003, 04:24 PM
|  | Super Moderator    | | Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: South East England Style(s): Sinclair Wing Chun Year(s): 8
Posts: 14,535
Rep Power: 100 | | | Good question!!!
I vote striking (hardly suprising seeing as that's primarily what I train) but a self defense scenario for me means conflict is unavoidable so you hit hard and fast, use your best weapon to their weakest target and then get out as fast as you can. That means striking. All the doormen I've ever spoken to have said that though most melee's go to ground, it's to be avoided at all costs.
Of course, if you fall over, or get dragged down, you've gotta have some idea of what to do! |
June 18th, 2003, 05:28 PM
|  | Dragon's List Allumni | | Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta, Ga Year(s): 13
Posts: 5,102
Rep Power: 69 | | | I agree with don't distinguish philosophy. |
June 18th, 2003, 06:32 PM
|  | Retired Mod | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sin City Style(s): DSF Year(s): Child
Posts: 9,729
Rep Power: 127 | | | Anyone that knows my post, would know what I'd say. STRIKING!!!!! But that's just me.
__________________
It's all about the nitty gritty.......
|
June 19th, 2003, 01:39 AM
| | Weathered Post Master | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Somewhere on the Munyamadzi... Style(s): Chow Gar 周家 Year(s): since 1986
Posts: 2,604
Rep Power: 78 | | | ummm ... just do what you are best at, that is appropriate for the situation, and accept the fact that you may lose.
__________________ "Battles are won by slaughter and maneuver. The greater the general, the more he contributes in maneuver, the less he demands in slaughter." - Sir Winston Churchill  | |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Rate This Thread | | | 
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:25 AM.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.0.0
|
