Multiple Attackers

Hi just got on the board and wantd to start by talking about Multiple Attackers. Has any one evr had any experiences ANy Tips Thanks for your Time

For multiple attackers, use attacks that will goes in two directions, such as striking forward and then a quick backwards swipe. There is also varies kicks you can learn... (Quk sol wan).
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Nick Tien

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi

If you are unfortunate enough to land yourself in a multiple attack situation your best bet, if you are able, is to line the attackers up. If thug1 throws a punch at you, move in the direction that would put thug2 behind thug1, thus eliminating thug2 for the time that he is behind thug1. When dealing with multiple attackers your best bet is to dispatch 1 as quickly as possible, if this means to cause permanent injury or death, then that is what it takes. If you take out Thug1's eye, then chances are Thug2 isn't gonna want to take the same chance, and you have effectively neutralized Thug1, and possibly the encounter. When dealing with multiple attackers with weapons you want to use the same line philosophy, however you need to concentrate on Thug1's weapon and neutralize it, it is the most immediate danger. The best bet here is to use nerve strikes and joint locks, or strikes that yield reliable, unconscious results (ie. Kick to the groin). If you have any chance at all, your best bet is to run, if this cannot be done, and you have a few seconds before your attackers are upon you, search for a weapon of your own (ie. Car antenna, rock, stick). ALWAYS remember, that if you are dealing with multiple attackers 99% of the time you will be hit, and you will be hurt. Use your most brutal attacks and decrease the length of the encounter as much as possible, remember duration = more hits = more hurt.

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good fighting!

~Taylor

Position yourself in a good place if possible, with your back to a wall (won't be attacked from behind then).

Hit the nearest guy first.

Run.

Very fast.

Backing yourself against a wall is probably not the best move in a multiple attacker situation, while you will eliminate the threat of someone behind you, you made it much easier for multiple attackers to get to you, and you haven't broken outside the "circle". For clarification of my previous post, if you are in a multiple attacker situation, pick a target in your mind, and move to the outside of the "circle" and try to line up the other attackers behind the person you chose, then just brutally mess up the first attacker. and one thing i forgot in my last post, using the opponent as a shield. assuming you were brutal and totally messed up the first person you chose, you can use his body as a shield against the other attackers, wait til an attacker closes in on you and then use the shield to throw your attacker off balance while you destroy him. always remember though, your best bet in a multiple attacker situation is to use strikes, preferably nerve strikes or lethal strikes, things that will disable your opponent (throat, eyes, nose {tear off}, fishook mouth). If you can AVOID GRAPPLING! do not tie yourself up with an opponent, unless you have already hurt him severely and are using him as a shield, or you are moving through him quickly (neck snap). Do not try chokes, do not try breaks or any moves that involve yourself getting tied up with the attacker. The most important thing i can think of in multiple attacker situations though is picking 1 person, then lining the rest up. Hope this helps

good fighting!

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good fighting!

~Taylor

placing your self against a wall may prevent you from being attacked from behind, but it limits your movement. If all were to just rush in, it'd be over... I would rather stay in the open where i can freely move around. One good tactic is to get one of the attackers in a wrist lock, or any lock and use them as a shield against the others. Hope i helped..
Good luck

It was five of them and one of me...

I got my ass kicked!!!

Well it was before I started Kung Fu...

Hit the lead attacker as hard. fast, and brutally as possible, and hope that you scare the rest away. There's no time to do anything else, and no one can defend themselves against a number of attackers!

I found this. Might help

Here's my two cents,

As palehorset already said, grappling is not a good idea. It only gives the other guys a better target. Striking and keeping your distance is a better idea. However, to all you judo fighters out there, all is not lost. While grappling is a bad idea, throws (especially throwing one guy into another) could be very useful. So remember; GRAPPLING=BAD, STRIKES AND THROWS=GOOD.

Magi

"We all take different paths to the mountain, yet we can all see the moon when we get there."

look for the leader attacker
throw a rock , chair ,glasses, key or fake to throw
this will disable their plans
hit fast and with no doubt in the on that is always talking , this one is the leader if u put he down the rest will be scard
if u are calm u can scream to make them stunt
(sorry about the writing)

One thing that I have learned and fortunately have not had to implement is that it is best to keep them at uneven distances away from you.

This way you might be able to stagger their attacks a bit, instead of having to deal with them in the same split second.

Aside from a .45 that is the best I can offer.

Sorry.

I hope that I might be of assistance here. I have had a few instances dealing with multiple attackers. My first experience, was several years ago, and thankfully after I had had a signifigant amount of training. I did things both right and wrong, but I offer them all to you. I was accosted verbally by a guy with a group of his freinds, and I honestly don't know how many there were. It was in high school and there were alot of people, and abit of "class discrimination". I said "excuse me" and tried to walk away. He shoved me from behind.(I should'nt have offered him my back) I turned around to face him and one of his freinds hit me from behind.(always expect 'audience participation') I turned to see who hit me,(I allowed myself to get distracted) and then the 'instigator' hit me. I turned to face him and then several blows rained down the back of my head, neck, and shoulders.(audience participation yet again) This is the point that my reflexes kicked in. The kwoon that I studied in included multiple opponent sparring in the curriculum. This was a big help in developing instincts and reflexes, but is very different from actual combat. To the best of my recolection: I attacked the rear attackers first, with a thrusting elbow. This caught sombody square in the forehead, and a push back effect with my tricep that I was'nt counting on but worked in my favor. I hit three more people with single strike blows. The chief aggressor then tried another punch. I saw this one comming and used a palm up block, followed by an eagle claw grab. As the preivious writers of this thread pointed out, if you tie yourself up you leave yourself open to further attack. I was struck several more times, but had alot of adrenaline kicking, so I did'nt realize it. I had a kind of auto pilot going that some of you understand, I'm sure. I ended up on the ground trying to block kicks with my elbows, and then I swept one of them to the ground, and used him to get up. At this point, it has been all of 15 seconds, and I know I can't get out of this, but the average person does'nt hit nearly as hard as your average contact sparring partner.(DO NOT LIVE BY THIS THEORY) I had no options of talking anyone out of this, nor a whole lot of common sense, and moved to start some action on my own terms. Luckily the fight was broken up at this point. I know this all sounds pretty dramatic, but keep in mind that this was high school, nobody wanted to take my life or money, they just wanted to beat up someone whose brother had pissed off one of their freinds, and was'nt around. I was the only person who had any formal training. Anyway I hope this helps. I have spent the past two years of my life as a bouncer in a night club, and have learned to deal with situations with my eyes more open. However, I think I've rambled on enough for now, sorry about that.

I got into a fight with 4 before I took martial arts.

I was driving. This car stopped parallel to mine at a traffic signal. One of the guy cussed at me. I got down and punched him really hard in the stomach. Then the other three got down. They started throwing wild punches at me. Because both my hands were around first guys neck, I blocked with my face. Then I remember falling on the road on top of this guy with my hands still around his neck. Then I remember getting up and kicking one of them on the thigh hard.

The police came and we were all taken to police station. The police recovered a revolver from their car and fake IDs.

One advice that I can give you is, when you are up against multiple attackers DONT BLOCK WITH YOUR FACE ... EVER!

Dragon Slayer,

I would say you were quite fortunate that the revolver didn't come into play.

Another lesson that I would derive from your experience is that you can never under estimate just how dramatically dangerous/complicated a situation can become.

In short, and I suppose this could apply to a situation where there is only one attacker as well, be prepared for the worst possible out come and the worst possible consequences. In an experience I had with a single opponent about a year ago, I found myself looking at a potentially complicated situation because I thought the attacker was seriously hurt (i.e. dead). However, fortunately the situation wasn't that servere and I was cleared of any wrong doing and the police found that I had acted in self-defense.

The point of all of this is that we should do our best, as martial artist, to avoid situations where we have to use force. Many of us train to become well-rounded martial artist, which includes being a solid fighter. However, I would sincerely hope that we don't look for chances to use it one people in its full capacity.

I know there some situations where this is unavoidable, but at level best, if something looks really questionable and we are in a position where we can avoid it, then we should avoid it. Avoiding walking down dark alleys in the middle of the night, when we don't have to, would be one way of doing this. I say this due to the potentially dangerous outcomes to both ourselves and the complications that could arise from dealing with legal issues.

In terms of multiple opponents, this is further magnified, in both the potential of danger occuring from physical harm, and legal ramifications if one of them is seriously hurt. For instance, if you have a situation where you end up fighting multiple opponents and one of them is killed, you could be potentially dealing with a witness to an alleged "crime" who is biased. And depending on how the legal system works on a potential day, this could work against us. Besides, the legal system is a goat rope and takes a lot of time, money and can be extremely frustrating.

In short, when possible use sound judgement and not ego. My father has a saying "All of the tough guys are either in jail or the cemetary". I don't know about anyone else, but I have no desire to either one of those places. Thus in closing my remark about the .45 was a bit out of place, although from a tactical standpoint valid, but nonetheless out of place and I apologize for it.