Bak Mei The Internal-External Art

I have just started Bak Mei, I have found that it uses both internal and external movements. It develops Jing and chi. It is a very fast fighting art with facing forward fighting like wing chun. what are your thoughts on this Art?

“	Originally Posted By: Sifu Huwei I have just started Bak Mei, I have found that it uses both internal and external movements. It develops Jing and chi. It is a very fast fighting art with facing forward fighting like wing chun. what are your thoughts on this Art?	”

Pardon my ignorance, but what do you mean by "facing forward fighting?" Specifically, what is the difference between that and other traditions and the way they face?

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Sorry I did not explain it in a more understandable matter.

when I say face forward stance I should have described it better. It is mainly short stances with your body facing forward. there is no turning of the waist. this is mainly so there is more speed in your movements and also so both your hands strike at the same length unlike boxing where you are on your side.

yes thats very wing chun like

bak mei is that white eye brow?

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Yes it is called White Eyebrow but some people believe the art was originally called White Crane.

Always makes me think of Kill Bill

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Look to Lung Ying for possible Bak Mei roots... Cheung Lai Chung studied with Lam Yiu Gwai for a while.

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Don't know much about it honestly, but I had a gongfu brother who studied some. Very fast, abrupt movements. I really liked the brutality of their methods (at least as I was shown them) and it seems advanced practitioners can generate a great deal of "jing".
I was lucky enough to learn sap luk dong from m brother as well which i from lung ying and his teacher did both. Lots of similarities, nice direct stuff, lucky for you to have a chance to learn it!

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I know sup luk dong too. I still do that set about once a day.

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Sifu Huwei if you dont mind me asking. What are you shifu of if you have just started playing Bak Mei?

BTW I know of no Chinese Martial art that is singley external or internal. not even taiji.

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Like GuiLongUmar said all CMA (and all real systems I believe) contain internal and external. Remember PROPER jing is qi and li . . . you need both to do maximum damage.

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“	Originally Posted By: GuiLongUmar Sifu Huwei if you dont mind me asking. What are you shifu of if you have just started playing Bak Mei?	”

Same question I was going to ask... also, where and with whom do you train Bak Mei? Not trying to run you away or flame you, it's just that Bak Mei is very rare and hard to find. Many claim it.. but very few actually know it.


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“	Originally Posted By: GuiLongUmar Sifu Huwei if you dont mind me asking. What are you shifu of if you have just started playing Bak Mei? BTW I know of no Chinese Martial art that is singley external or internal. not even taiji.	”

I am more of an assistant sifu I help teach Iron Palm, and various other Internal striking and application with my teacher, and you are right there is no such this as a fully external or internal art, even taiji quan has its external side.

“	Like GuiLongUmar said all CMA (and all real systems I believe) contain internal and external. Remember PROPER jing is qi and li . . . you need both to do maximum damage.	”

If this is really true and Sun Lutang says so himself, I am in luck because I have already developed a strong Chi in my opinion and Bak Mei stresses the development of jing.

“	Same question I was going to ask... also, where and with whom do you train Bak Mei? Not trying to run you away or flame you, it's just that Bak Mei is very rare and hard to find. Many claim it.. but very few actually know it.	”

My Sifu's name is Ken but as silly as I must sound I do not know his last name. He does however know a fair bit about his martial arts history I am doing Bak Mei training tonight I shall ask his teachers name and their history. And tell you tommorow.

“	Originally Posted By: GuiLongUmar BTW I know of no Chinese Martial art that is singley external or internal. not even taiji.	”

That's for sure. The more I learn about MA, the more difficult I find it to draw the lines between external and internal.

When I first began, it was easy, but then I learned there are elements of both in most everything, it is just a matter of degrees and where the focus is pointed more. But not in an absolute way, like I first thought.

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I must not fear.Fear is the mind-killer.Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.I will face my fear.I will permit it to pass over me & through me.& when it has gone I will turn to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.Only I will remain.F.Herbert

“	Originally Posted By: Sifu Huwei I am more of an assistant sifu I help teach Iron Palm, and various other Internal striking and application with my teacher, and you are right there is no such this as a fully external or internal art, even taiji quan has its external side. If this is really true and Sun Lutang says so himself, I am in luck because I have already developed a strong Chi in my opinion and Bak Mei stresses the development of jing. My Sifu's name is Ken but as silly as I must sound I do not know his last name. He does however know a fair bit about his martial arts history I am doing Bak Mei training tonight I shall ask his teachers name and their history. And tell you tommorow.	”

So where do you teach?

Curious as you do not list any locations or links or whatnot.

You afraid of people knowing where you teach??

Stand up and be proud of your skills rather than hide

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