Has anyone heard of Falun Dafa???

Hey i was wondering if anyone knew about a qigong practice named falun Dafa?? is it safe to practice alone? also i was trying some qigong once (lifting the sky as shown in wong kiew kits book) after a really traumatic experience to try and calm down and i think it may have harmed me. Would anyone know about this?

thanks

“	Hey i was wondering if anyone knew about a qigong practice named falun Dafa??	”

Yes

“	is it safe to practice alone?	”

No, so does Bodybuilding or any other sports..

“	also i was trying some qigong once (lifting the sky as shown in wong kiew kits book) after a really traumatic experience to try and calm down and i think it may have harmed me. Would anyone know about this?	”

it's hard to comment on this.. I've no idea WKK's Qigong, I thnk some of DL members might put more light on this..
-TkdWarrior-

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qi gong after a really traumatic experience?

that's really NOT good.

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if you had no proper instruction to begin with that might be what harmed you.

BTW when you say "i think it may have harmed me" what are youtalking about? Headaches, dizzyness, can't get it up anymore?

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they have a great marketing team very effective

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IF its done like described in WKK´s book, there is really no harm in it. It is one of my personal favourites, good for opening up.

IF its not done like described, with some "oh thats so simple, and I think I am advanced enough, so I will add a thing and some chi directing here and there..." Then it may become harmful. Thats true for any kind of Qi Gong though.

Doing Qi Gong after an traumatic experience? If your mind isn´t "right" for practice, it won´t do any good.

So, to be precise:
How do you think it harmed you?
What was your traumatic experience?

P.S. Falun Danfa practioners have their own organisation (which was forbidden in China. The government thought it was a sect of some sort)

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“	Originally Posted By: Necronos P.S. Falun Danfa practioners have their own organisation (which was forbidden in China. The government thought it was a sect of some sort)	”

Its a nutty cult.

Could very well be, Unk

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Is this the same as Falun Gong?
They are a sect which has been banned by the government in China because their members have infiltrated the government to a high degree and at high levels, practitioners have been persecuted in various ways including imprisonment and 'accidental death during detention' if you know what I mean.

“	According to Newsroom on 2000-SEP-11: Earlier this month, in its second annual report on religious freedom, the U.S. State Department said that in the past year China had intensified its repression against the Falun Gong, Tibetan Buddhists, Muslim Uighurs, and underground Protestants and Catholics. Some Chinese religious believers, the report said, face "harassment, extortion, prolonged detention, physical abuse, and incarceration in prison or in ‘re-education through labor’ camps." Prior to the Millennium World Peace Summit in New York City this month, however, Bishop Michael Fu Tieshan of the state-controlled Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association insisted that "there is no religious persecution in China." The International Commission on Religious Freedom, nevertheless, renewed a call last week for the U.S. Congress to withhold Permanent Normal Trade Status unless China "makes substantial improvement in respect for religious freedom." Later this week the Senate is expected to begin debate on a measure that would give China the trade benefits accorded most other nations. The measure was passed earlier this year in the House of Representatives, and passed in 2000-SEP in the Senate.. According to the Hong Kong monitor, at least 30 Falun Gong followers have died of mistreatment while in custody since July 1999, when the movement was banned. Authorities have detained at least 35,000 practitioners, and 5,000 have been sent to labor camps without trial.	”

http://www.religioustolerance.org/rt_china.htm

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Any method that says one should leave society and their families is wrong from the standpoint of the pure heritage of spiritual chi gung methods of Taoist science (not a religon for good reason).

Stay away from falun gong even if they use methods of chi gung we know of. Now modern physical therapy in hospitals that use the methods of traditional chi gung is a good thing to help one regain health not mystic bs and used to delude others for the founders benefit. political agenda is also a corruption and contrived which falun gong was born of.

Sounds like Yellow bamboo all over again.

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“	Originally Posted By: PaiLumUmar Sounds like Yellow bamboo all over again.	”

well...

I know some people over here who are into that kinda stuff
but it's more towards "new-age"-kinda-fly-all-over-the-place-kinda-sh!t that that jellow bamboo stuff that taught us how to make unbreakable eggs...

seen some of the qigong exercises
and quite frankly....
no-one has a clue what the F they're doing...

it's exercise class for ederly people
at best....

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Hey thanks for the replies :]

“	BTW when you say "i think it may have harmed me" what are youtalking about? Headaches, dizzyness, can't get it up anymore?	”

well afterward i couldnt go to sleep because my body was shaking and twitching and i had a lot of pressure in my head. It has gone away since then but there are times where i feel kinda wierd still. I figured that playing basketball, stretching, and yoga seem to help though. But are there anyways to undue wrong qigong is what i am wondering.

“	So, to be precise: How do you think it harmed you? What was your traumatic experience?	”

Well the experience was just the overflow of an ongoing problem with my family(gangs, aids worries, no structure with family, trying to find my mom a house and get her life straight, drugs, on top of some other crap). My brother flipped out and we almost wrecked the car and he totally lost it and i couldnt find any words to say to calm him or make him feel ok. Anyway, It is too much to explain here and i dont want to turn this into a psychiatrist post or whatever. But i went home that evening feeling quite shattered and unbalanced so i figured some qigong might help and i think it did otherwise.

hey Necronos, in wong keiw kits book he mentions doing standing meditation after lifting sky. In your opinion would you think it ok to try the meditation even without instruction from a master or teacher? just wonderin what you think of that.
Does anyone know much about wong kiew kits qigong methods?

Newho, thanks for the replies friends, and i think im just gonna trash that falun dafa tape i bought and wait till i can study chigong under a master or sifu.

Imho don't try any more energy raising techniques without a teacher to guide you past the pitfalls.

It sounds to me like you have stimulated Chi and it has lodged in your upper body and head area, this can create a lot of pressure and is only meant to be done once certain safety valves have been put in place.

Practising when you have emotional imbalances can also lead to psychoses or neuroses at the very least because you are simply adding more power into an already imbalanced system. Think of it like this, if your car engine is out of tune you don't just put your foot on the accelerator or you might blow the engine, best to see a mechanic and get it fixed.

I have met people who have experimented with things like Kundalini Yoga without proper supervision and preparation, I don't mean to scare anyone here but this particular person was sectioned in a psychiatric institution for seven years and lost their home and their business as a consequence.

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I would say its hyper tension, and some hyperventilating...very common in the beginning

I have heard all kinds of wild BS stories about the danger of Kundalini... though there is a power that once releaced can be a little hard to controll if transferd to another person or object without some skill but its really only a shock wave

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