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November 20th, 2001, 10:45 AM
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Rep Power: 100 | | | Well, without elaborating on why it does not happen for you, it happened to that guy that he developed a strong asthma, while only being hit twice in certain fashion. "Try and error" is a bad attempt to "learn", "study" and "discover" something like this.
Hopefully, someone will try an attempt at how you can really deal with something like that. Someone | 
November 22nd, 2001, 01:31 PM
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What a disgustingly censorial load of politically correct liberal bearaucracy this site has become.
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November 22nd, 2001, 01:50 PM
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Rep Power: 100 | | You're correct. What a pity... No overkill descriptions allowed - a true loss.  | 
November 23rd, 2001, 01:12 AM
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I am new to this site, but find it very interesting! If I understand the rules correctly concerning posting replies or threads...then I should only speak from my own experience...so here it goes...
I have met "masters" of styles that claim to use "Dim Mak" techniques that could cause a knockout with one punch(or kick)...and one of my instructors has actually asked these guys to knock him out....or do something....while he stands there and lets them...the "masters" always say it is too lethal to do...or provide some other BS excuse...my instuctor comes from a very traditional lineage of aiki-jitsu....which stresses chi in a more technical sense...ie...as applies to "flowing techniques" or personal energy, NOT something that someone could manipulate with a strike...while I have studied some taiji and can believe that maybe Dim Mak could be a valid or real martial art or set of techniques based on the theory of it ... I personally have failed to see anyone prove it. I also find it curious that many of the points that one is to strike at in DM are some of the softest and most vulnerable points on the body, points that could easily injure someone without the use of chi manipulation...just by a couple
pounds of force 
I guess my point would be that bickering over a specific way of doing a Dim Mak technique is seems somewhat pointless to me...I have met a few tai chi experts(meaning practioners for over 40 years in my book  ) and they were very powerful and skillful...but there opinions on death touch are the same as mine...that it is set of techniques that were mystified over time and are totally not what people think they are....so what does it matter if someone states exactly how to do a technique....if a kid reads it and tries it that is on their heads....that is why you have disclaimers, I thought this forum was for martial artist who want to communicate and learn from each other through open discussion
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November 25th, 2001, 05:00 PM
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The last sentence of your post is what we want. We are free to discuss whatever. As in our daily lives, we should be aware of others around us and be responsible so as not to share info that some are not ready for.  | 
November 25th, 2001, 05:21 PM
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Rep Power: 63 | | ...well put!!! Thanks!
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December 31st, 2001, 08:40 AM
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Dim Mak - there are actually very few people out there that can do it properly. Why Two reasons. First it is hard to do well, requiring a healthy body with open meridians and a strong flow of qi. This in itself takes a long time to acheive - try before its true and you stand the risk of forcing qi to flow when it is restricted which will cause damage (I am fortunate enough to have been taught some medical qigong and have had to treat someone who did precisely that). Secondly, those that can do it are circumspect about who they teach it to. Why It is dangerous to practice (see above), dangerous to your training partners, and dangerous if you lack the self control to refrain from using it except when absolutely necessary (and we're talking extreme here).
Should individual techniques be openly discussed in an impersonal forum (for it is always going to be more impersonal than a 1-1 relationship with your teacher) No. Would you let your kids (lets say you have a little boy aged 6), go outside and play with the hedge trimmer that you left out in the spirit of "well, others are out there now, I see no need to keep mine safe" No.
So, what is this forum for Perhaps we should ask what we practice is for - our own health, the benefit of others, ... to better destroy those we fight, to dominate those weaker than us Maybe we all need to step back and think why we do what we do.
Oh, and a quick response to does Dim Mak exist. Yes, but few understand it. If sticking an "inert" thin piece of pointy metal into someone's skin can have a curative effect (and I hope most readers would say it can), then a gentle knock to the same place can have an effect. What effect and how is it acheived, how to make it more pronounced - these are questions best asked by those few of us that reach a level where we are ready for the answer.
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