what the heck is chi

chi- motion in life contained substance
energy- motion in non-life substance

the line that seperates energy and chi is the life force

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Isn't Chi that hot stuff you get at Korean restaurants?

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yup
that's Kim's Chi

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non life forms of energy make an environment (building blocks) for life forms chi to come into existence our relationship with all things is timeless and deep. When one reaches understanding it is like shinning a light (consciousness) on reality. we see we are not even separate from a rock, basic human forms all look the same and most think they are separate from other humans and exist independently how very sad. we are divine humans and are sole responsible for our environment, all that bad stuff (world of men) we have created by separating from nature with independent attitude and man against nature is foolishness.

“	Originally Posted By: Allan_Tsang yup that's Kim's Chi	”

This Kim's Chi, is she hot?

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Judge yourself:

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“	Originally Posted By: Ye-luke This Kim's Chi, is she hot?	”

heard it's hot and "spicy"

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“	Originally Posted By: Enada Then there’s ‘ol sifu in class “Push sweat off forehead with chi” “Scratch nose with chi…..just stay in that stance and don’t move!!!”	”

Now that's some funny stuff right there. It's one of those you gotta be there type deals.......

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“	Originally Posted By: Aesc 氣 Ch'i or Qi originally just means "breath" or "breathing" in Chinese. All the other associations are formations based on the experiences of the speaker. It is a very common term in the Chinese language. For example, the term for "weather" in Chinese is "t'ien ch'i" or the "breath of Heaven." It is really simple, and it only becomes complex in specific technical applications, like traditional Chinese medicine or some martial arts. In my school, when instructors are asked about ch'i by students we say: "It means breathing. There isn't much point talking any more about it until you have enough objective experience to actually know what you are talking about, so, everyone get back to work!"	”

Yes I have heard Qi described as air or breath. What they heck does that mean? To a chinese person raised in an entirely different culture, that probably tells them everything.

I think that western people, because they do not grow up in Chinese culture, don't have a clue what "breath or air" has to do with martial arts.

I think it is necessary for westerners to talk amongst themselves about chi to see if they can translate Chinese culture ideas into Western Culture ideas. Western Culture is all about science and technology while Chinese culture is about self cultivation among other things. There is no common ground between self cultivation and science. It is up to the people alive today right this minute to invent the connection between the two.

I think Chi is energy. That is what makes sense to a Western person. Westerners know about heat energy from a heater or electric energy from a power plant. Chi is energy from a person.

Chi is just like the shields on the USS Enterprise in Star Trek. Or Chi is like the characters in DragonBall Z when they turn on the power and it blazes up like a fire around them.

Those are visual representations of something invisible to the human eye so don't expect flames or a Star Trek shield to appear around you if you get some chi.

I think the best way to think about "Ch'i is breath" is to think about how long you could fight if you were holding your breath. Not very long. Both internal and external styles train breathing technique to make the breathing more efficient. Better breathing = more stamina. Internal and some external styles go one step further and train coordinating their motions, offensive and defensive, with the timing of their improved breathing. This can result in some pretty impressive martial abilities if done correctly.

The conceptions of energy shields and all of that are dramatic or comedic exaggerations of actual abilities that people had in the old days, to be sure, before 16 frame a second Japanese animation (joke alert!). To be able to resist impact with ch'i kung, though, you'd have to train all day every day for years and years and years, like the old time monks in monasteries. You'd have to sacrifice television, video games, rap music, booze, drugs - all the materialistic trappings of the modern world to do that as well. On top of that, you will have to have an insight into how the universe really works, what the exact rules of cause and effect are and just how binding they are on our behaviour (and why) to be able to start to manifest these abilities.

Maybe that is why I sound like a killjoy on this subject. The stuff you see on TV is aggressive power-trip fantasy based on misunderstood legends of an earlier time. DBZ, for example, is based (very loosely) on the old legend known as Journey to the West about the Monkey King Sun Wukong (Goku in Japanese) and his quest to bring the teachings of the Buddha to China. Nowhere in DBZ do they mention those teachings or why they were important. Instead, they glorify aggressive attitudes and violence for the sake of sensationalism. Not very Buddhist. That is why I find pop-culture "martial arts" based productions so easy to dismiss.

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chi is a general term for a unique force in nature different from other forces in that the others are reactive and contrary to those chi is one force that is responsive.

Another unique factor is its found in matter that is animated by a life force. It is a force that is known by its effects but not by a formula.

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“	Originally Posted By: Aesc The conceptions of energy shields and all of that are dramatic or comedic exaggerations of actual abilities that people had in the old days, to be sure, before 16 frame a second Japanese animation (joke alert!). To be able to resist impact with ch'i kung, though, you'd have to train all day every day for years and years and years, like the old time monks in monasteries. You'd have to sacrifice television, video games, rap music, booze, drugs - all the materialistic trappings of the modern world to do that as well. On top of that, you will have to have an insight into how the universe really works, what the exact rules of cause and effect are and just how binding they are on our behaviour (and why) to be able to start to manifest these abilities. Maybe that is why I sound like a killjoy on this subject.	”

No you don't have to train all day every day and give up TV and Video Games in order to become strong.

No you don't have to have an insight into the workings of the universe. If you do understand, you learning might be faster.

I thought you sounded like a killjoy because that is your personality.