what does medatation consist of.

I need help knowing what medatation is exactaly because some one told me its clearing your mind and then filling it up with negetive thoughts and then trying to figure out away to clear the negetive thoughts....I found this very hard to belive simply because you have to clear your mind of negetinve thoughts already ....right? I don't think this question is comming out clear but if anyone understands it I'd like an ansewer because Im curious.

I don't understand the concept of medetation. Can some one explain how it works and why people do it.

Check this out Meditation information and techniques let me know if it helps.

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"-when you yourself know that a thing is good, that it is not blamable, that it is praised by the wise and when practiced and observed that it leads to happiness, then follow that thing.”

Sounds like an odd definition of meditation.

meditation is generally considered focusing on one thought or having no thoughts or, at least, large gaps between thoughts. Often accompanied by a specific physical posture which is held. The point is not to try, not to work, just return to your specific thought or release the thoughts that arise, every time you realise you have wandered.

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High mountains are a feeling
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you are making things more complex than they are...
as John said it's quite an odd definition.
Let me give you easiest of meditation...
1 Lie down, hands on your sides. legs bit wide apart.
2. Breathe in, Breathe out... Let go of any tension in the body.
3. Now count backwards from 50 to 1 with 1 sec gap.
4. when You reach at 1... Just let yourself go.. and be in that for some time.
5. To come out of it... Count from 1 to 5.. and make an affirmation "when I reach at 5 I'll be wide awake". Now count from 1 - 5.

This is simplest form of Yoga Nidra.
-TkdWarrior-

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Today, I only recommend empty meditation. That is, sit down somewhere, alone, and watch the scenery thinking of nothing until your inner mind fills the void with something you need to take care for. Meaning, emotions will pop up from alone, and then you simply continue breathing and let them feelings work out themselves, hopefully getting a positive attitude towards them. Hurting feelings have a necessity, fear has, joy also. Sometimes it takes a long time until you work out the natural dealing with feelings. Never, ever try to go unnatural on them, it is often a way with no return, and it takes a long time to come back once you went far on this direction. There is nothing as horrible as forgetting what is the natural method of having or living feelings. Forget on Dragonball Z approaches on meditation, the movie method of only living this or that feeling, idea, will etc.The difference between movie and reality is, what happens is what is the result in reality, not what it has been in Return of the Ninja III. SOMETHING will happen, and if you "focus will on XYZ", then it will pop up all the time in your mind even with no reason to do so, while everything important gets hard to think. A quiet, joyful mind is the result of everything having been solved, which is undecided in mind. This if you have lots of unresolved memories takes often a long time to go through it, without pressing. Noone knows what is unresolved inside, so the only method of resolving the important is to let the own inside care for popping the right memories, ideas or feelings. Often, the only necessary thing is to allow that feeling to be there, live, until it resorts to something. I often had GIANT feelings of old, bad times, which I moved left and right to do something with it. Without good outcome. Then I resorted to simply allowing big feelings to be there, not thinking, and it worked some solution without me figuring it consciously. Often the only result is to feel sad, angry, bitter, or have wishes with you without knowing how to work on them coming true. Then, the feelings work solutions, changing what you think. I needed to forget of clearcut black/white thinking on some issues, having a yes, but solution going on, most of the time, working out kind of scales that tell me how much of something is okay, and what needs responses, of the not so friendly, forgiving, or wellmeaning kind. Complicated problems need feelings to work solutions, generalities won't work concretely. What if you have a girlfriend, and you have X percent problems ? How much is too much, what can you take, what change ? That is done from feelings. The natural living is to have them in the background, thinking, doing the complicated work of understanding all the bits and parts of the problem, until you get a go or no-go initiative. Like saying something, not saying it, or kicking her butt and slam the door forever. Meditation is learning to trust those feelings, and waiting until they figure a balance of actions as response to what happens. All that coming by just sitting there waiting for it to happen, popping up feelings. Result is, the feelings having too big a fire, running wild, will lose energy, and those needing more of it raise. Thank god there is something inside doing that for you, it's too difficult to consciously work, getting a good thing on the long run, instead of the short. After a while, good feelings drive you into the right direction, you never need someone to tell you what to do anymore.

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"Theft is a crime, even in Iraq." - Me.

Most meditation is a form of non-direct involvement.

Meditation of the mind is a state of non-directed thought. In meditation you are only the observer and nothing else. No possession of thoughts, no reaction to them.

Meditation for the body is a relaxation that comes from not directing anything through physical means. The systems that use a focus on energy in the mid section work better when it is awareness more than an effort.

Simple concept of meditation is undoing what you normally do by not doing.

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Well, the reaction in case of hurt feelings popping up should be given. In case you have hurt yourself, you should and hopefully will feel sorry for doing it. This is a healthy good reaction.

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"Fawning, but proud!" - (at least sometimes, in rare cases)
"Killing them all didn't make it any better..." - "Are you a freak or something ???" - Max Payne
"Theft is a crime, even in Iraq." - Me.

Seeing is with out judgment, seeing all things, not one more important then another.
looking is being subjective with the discriminating sprit proclaiming this is good, this is bad.

the consciousness that sees is the infinite beyond birth and death and this thing we call self.

the self (discriminating spirit) is trapped in false hood of good, bad, birth, death and struggles in conflict with reality of the nature of how things really are.

Meditation is a vehicle, the work can only be done by ones self knowing through actual experience the the dust settles if you can be still.

Being still in mind because many meditate during all activates never losing the center ok trying to keep to center in movement or stillness of body not just in sitting meditation although sitting is the easiest way to start with.


Thoughts that come in the form of words are from the lower consciousness, thoughts that observe and connect is the higher consciousness with no words in awareness.

<<you should and hopefully will feel sorry for doing it. This is a healthy good reaction.>.

Maybe under ideal circumstances and by a well balanced and confident mind. What can occur and often does is a development of a burden of guilt and even deeper dimensions of depression.

Meditation is an opening to a means of letting go of judgments.


<<with no words in awareness>>

Awareness is freedom from the known.

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“	the reaction in case of hurt feelings popping up should be given. In case you have hurt yourself, you should and hopefully will feel sorry for doing it. This is a healthy good reaction.	”

Very tricky. Everything that arises when you meditate, whichever method you choose, isn't good or bad, it's just what's happening. Whatever you encounter be thankful, you learned something. During meditation observe what happens in your mind and emotions, don't judge it, and let it go.

The clarity, the knowing what is right, that will follow on its own.

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Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you
High mountains are a feeling
I don't need to sell my soul, he's already in me

There is no living without judgement. The question is the reaction out of the judgement. Letting go reaction out of the judgement is a first means of overcoming those mentioned burdens. Castigating yourself, or others, over the judgement is a heavy, strong burden, and it would not solve anything. If you accept the judgement, if something is good, bad, or part so so, doing nothing in first instance to go for changes, it will work out a deal of balance and peace inside. I can think something is bad without jumping it, shooting it. I can feel sorry of something, not hitting my feelings over it. Only feeling the sorrow. Results can grow out of within.

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"Fawning, but proud!" - (at least sometimes, in rare cases)
"Killing them all didn't make it any better..." - "Are you a freak or something ???" - Max Payne
"Theft is a crime, even in Iraq." - Me.

Wah Lau....

Meditation is not any of the things mentioned above, and yet it is also all of them.

In short, Meditation = Training The Mind...

Used in many different countries, in many different martial systems, spiritual systems, and more...There are many different styles and techniques.

“	Originally Posted By: Supreme-Drunkard I need help knowing what medatation is exactaly because some one told me its clearing your mind and then filling it up with negetive thoughts and then trying to figure out away to clear the negetive thoughts....I found this very hard to belive simply because you have to clear your mind of negetinve thoughts already ....right? I don't think this question is comming out clear but if anyone understands it I'd like an ansewer because Im curious. I don't understand the concept of medetation. Can some one explain how it works and why people do it.	”

I found this interesting article on Discovery Health.

"Unlocking the Power of Meditation: Awareness"

"Unlockling the Power of Mediation: Discipline"

Robert Alan Anderson is a martial arts instructor and an AFAA-certified personal trainer. He's studied martial arts for over 10 years. He teaches wing chun kung fu, self-defense, and kickboxing classes in the Washington, D.C., area. He can be reached at robert@quickfist.com.

Enjoy!

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Look in your local Boston area Yellow Book and see if there are any meditation teachers or Zen classes.

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Not convinced by those links. I particularly like Godfrey Devereux's advice on meditation in http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

I guess it depends on approach and semantics.

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Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you
High mountains are a feeling
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