Info about Shattering palm and or Bear kungfu

“	Originally Posted By: GreatBear hey i have recently started shattering palm and have been having a slight problem. After about 2 minutes of constant straining of chi i get a overwhelming pain located in the back of the head, feeling at first as a stabing pain then a great and painful throbbing feel that last well over and hour and no western of chinese remedy or medicine seems to help.	”

How are you training shattering palm? This does not sound right as the shattering palm is mostly internal. With vibrating palm for example, if you do tense your muscles while your pulsating, you'll get headaches. You dont relax cause its part of the execution and its internal, its internal and relaxed because you CANNOT use muscle tension with vibrating palm. Thats the point. The self effect helps to break up statis and stagnation in the muscles and surface, which is often the side effect of iron body, dynamic tension, ect. Reich called this muscular armoring.

well yer thanks again, i found the reason for my headache it was a migranic reaction to a fever i had, the tenseing was my mistake i didnt understand how he explained to me and i checked it out so thats all cool plus i shouldnt of been training with a bad fever and so on

bear kf is actually a primitive style of kf it basicly just require you to sink when you strike

i just hope the ursa major finds a true path. cma is a wide road and there are many routes to choose, but i get the feeeling that he (she?) is being misled. best wishes my friend.

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welcome dang_lu_chan to dragons list, i knew that as i said before i knew the basics, so i guess theres no style doesnt matter. thanks to all that replied. and yes i am a he bobblehead

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GreatBear

you havent been meditating have you?

the manipulation of chi in the body requires focus and concentration, not to mention coordination and rythmic breathing,etc.

always sink the chi to the dantien, if it rises to the back of the head, try not to let it, but dont force against it, and dont confuse yourself. also it is vital to maintain soong.

your chi will rise to the back of your head if you let your focus go, always keep your chi in the dantien, from here it will flow naturally through the arms and legs and everything in between the extremeties.

dont sit there trying to strain power out of your body, this could be why your getting a headache also, watch out, you might even get a hernia, the whole concept of chi is not to strain but to RELAX.

study tai chi and move up gradually, this is the nature of internal arts, and tai chi is probably the most basic of these internal arts, dont try to do any advanced techniques utilizing your "chi" remember, internal arts are slow but sure, learn the basics, and when you actually know what youre doing, you can then do your lil experiments.

by the way, what is shattering palm? sounds cool, but i never heard of it are you sure your friend isnt a jedi master also?

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shatting palm hehehe

Jedi master, doubt it. ill ask, i no one of his closer friends claim he's a jedi but hey who am i to judge, and i have been meditating, before and after i began training. the pain has gone and after my cold leaves me ill start up again

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GreatBear

i think u've got enough cold qi now why do you want it to go away?

A good starting point for 'Bear Forms' would be to check out the Five Animal Frolics...easily found online, but best learned by watching it being performed live...and also Hsing-Yi Bear Style...which may be a bit harder to find online, and also best learned by watching it being performed live and in person as a student. In the latter methods...pushing, slapping, and the use of various open handed palm techniques are typical in most Hsing-Yi Chuan Styles. Good luck!

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Sifu Stier

“	Originally Posted By: dang_lu_chan i think u've got enough cold qi now why do you want it to go away?	”

no not cold chi, my cold you no small temperature, sore throat primarly ill

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GreatBear

“	Originally Posted By: Sifu Stier A good starting point for 'Bear Forms' would be to check out the Five Animal Frolics...easily found online, but best learned by watching it being performed live...and also Hsing-Yi Bear Style...which may be a bit harder to find online, and also best learned by watching it being performed live and in person as a student. In the latter methods...pushing, slapping, and the use of various open handed palm techniques are typical in most Hsing-Yi Chuan Styles. Good luck! Light To All! Sifu Stier	”

Five animal Frolics, there really funny, seen them a while back, though if i remeber rite the bear one is just walkin all slumped down with a few shakes here and there, but neways ill check em out thanks oh i forgot and the big balls

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GreatBear

You should stop practicing and find yourself a qualified teacher. You should not be paying around with the internal martial arts. You could really harm yourself both physically and mentally.