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March 26th, 2006, 06:24 PM
|  | Junior Member | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Omaha, NE Style(s): shaolin long fist +more
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Rep Power: 0 | | | iron body training does anyone here in DL do any sort of iron body training? if so, please do share your experiences. | 
March 26th, 2006, 08:20 PM
|  | when TKD strikes | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New Delhi, India Year(s): 8
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Rep Power: 37 | | | well the answer is Yes... there are lots of people who either are doing Iron body or have done it... including myself...
I have worked on forearms, shins and abdomen. I once squared off with my teacher and started hitting each other on abdomen... well I ended up being hurt... his abs were like Rock... couldn't punch by way through... before I realized I was punching full power ... oh well he got serious and.... well you can guess what happened.
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March 26th, 2006, 09:24 PM
|  | <--theguychangingmyavatar | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Land of Whales Style(s): Mei Hua Chuan/MMA Year(s): 21
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Rep Power: 220 | | | I practice it as well, if done correctly it is very useful, just takes time and patience to properly reap the benefits. But when you achieve them, man, they're great!!!
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March 26th, 2006, 10:06 PM
| | Venerable Student | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Muncie, IN Style(s): Ng Family Kung Fu
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Rep Power: 10 | | | i am practicing iron palm and iron bridge.. when i am able to i will begin iron pole and broom(forearms and shins).. | 
March 27th, 2006, 11:39 AM
| | Beginner | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Style(s): Ryu jiu jitsu,Kb,tai chi Year(s): 14
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Rep Power: 0 | | Iron training I practice iron fist training and I am starting Iron shirt pretty soon | 
March 27th, 2006, 03:23 PM
|  | This bird's for you | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Big Texas Style(s): 5Animal,Boxing,wrestling, Year(s): 17 Years
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Rep Power: 36 | | | TRK,
I practiced Iron Body training for about 3 years. Haven't done it in almost as long. When I did it, I worked on Iron Shirt, my hands, shins, and forearms. The shins were the most painful, in my opinion, but maybe the most valuable once they have been trained sufficiently. I plan on starting up again at home soon. It would be the hardest thing to do consistantly on my own, I think, since it hurts like heck!
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March 27th, 2006, 03:25 PM
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Rep Power: 36 | | | My bad, the original post was by Zlarin, I replied to TRK...I'll get the hang of this here internet one day!!! | 
March 29th, 2006, 01:10 PM
|  | Venerable Student | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Style(s): Snake & Leopard Kung Fu Year(s): 8
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Rep Power: 4 | | | I'm interested in Iron Body training, but how exactly do you do it? I'm completely ignorant in this subject. | 
March 29th, 2006, 01:27 PM
|  | This bird's for you | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Big Texas Style(s): 5Animal,Boxing,wrestling, Year(s): 17 Years
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Rep Power: 36 | | | I would first recommend learning from someone with experience in the art, as it is dangerous to take on by yourself, and it hurts so much that you need someone there to call you a wuss if you try to quit...you know bruise your ego some.
The experience I had in it was striking a bag full of pebbles, open-palm, then the back of the hand fingertip pushups and grip training also played a role. Then, striking the 3 surfaces, (not the soft underside where the veins are!) of the forearm on a 4x4 wooden post, and the shins...here is the nasty part. Roll a 1.5"-2" in diameter and 4 feet in length bar of solid cold-rolled steel up and down your shins. You may need to wrap your shins with an ace bandage at first to prevent your skin from breaking. ANd, it probably will, anyway. Then, you MUST take your Jow afterwards. The strikes will increase as you develop both your pain tolerance and your fascia builds up to the stress, and you can add wieght to the bar, or get a bigger bar to further promote your shin hardening. The Iron shirt is usually done with a partner, and he/she will strike you on the back, the ribs, and the chest with the object of your school's choosing. Where I learned it wsa with a 2 foot long peice of a 4"x4" cedar post. OUCH. I am sure each school has their own method. But a rose is a rose, yes? Beating yourself to all heck and then rubbing some Dit Da Jow on the boo-boos to heal it up. | 
March 30th, 2006, 10:50 AM
| | Venerable Student | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Finland Style(s): KF(Tai Shin Mun)
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Rep Power: 5 | | | I'm currently doing iron body training for my arms and after that I will continue with other body parts. Don't yet know exactly which one, but we do pretty much all but iron head in our school.
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March 30th, 2006, 11:46 AM
|  | Advisor | | Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: N.E. Ohio, USA Style(s): Now,primarily chi kung an Year(s): 30-35
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Rep Power: 100 | | | I still daily or every other day work my hands. I work knuckles,back fist,palmes,knife edge and ridge strikes. As I have said before,started on bag of sand,moved to bag of river rocks then onto and still a bag of steel bearings.
As far as the rest of my body,I have trained fore arms,abs,back,calves and thighes but NOT shins. This was done in many ways over the years but a base ball bat was what I used most of the time near the end of that kind of training myself.
I must say that I have found that this is in a way the same as weight training in that in w.t. after working over a period of time,you grow in size and strength. If you stop training all together you will decrease in size at about the same rate you had increased(maybe a little slower),but you will never reduce to the size you had originily started at.
Doing iron body training for years and then stopping,your abitity to withstand blows might deminish over time but will never return to that of a never trained body.
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March 31st, 2006, 01:25 PM
|  | Venerable Student | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Style(s): Snake & Leopard Kung Fu Year(s): 8
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Rep Power: 4 | | | Awesome! Thanks that helps a lot... I heard somewhere that a good way for Iron Head is get a cement slab and hit yourself in the head with it, gradually increasing on the amount of power you use, is that true? | 
March 31st, 2006, 02:01 PM
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Rep Power: 36 | | | I don't know much about Iron Head. What you describe sounds painful! I usually focused on my striking surfaces, paying extra attention to my shins, as it is great thing to block a kick with your shin and have it not phase you in the slightest. The iron arm training is great as both defensive and offensive weapons. CHeck the "Guard Position" thread, some people are currently talking about hard blocking as it applies to Lohan Kung Fu..... | 
March 31st, 2006, 02:32 PM
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Awesome! Thanks that helps a lot... I heard somewhere that a good way for Iron Head is get a cement slab and hit yourself in the head with it, gradually increasing on the amount of power you use, is that true? | ” | |
That is one way, another is with an iron plate.
My kung fu brother trains this, can break a block with his head, man that is something to see, but not for me | “ | Originally Posted By: WuSung
The iron arm training is great as both defensive and offensive weapons. CHeck the "Guard Position" thread, some people are currently talking about hard blocking as it applies to Lohan Kung Fu..... | ” | |
This is very true, we train very extensively in all iron exercises; body/vest/palm/head, and with the hardening of the bones/muscles/ligaments/etc. and the knowledge of how to direct the power with said strikes, it is like being hit by a solid block of iron or as my master says " a sack of bricks", through these exercises you become a very efficient weapon, and many of the iron exercises were created by Lohan, and as such those who practice a real Lohan style will train heavily in these exercises.
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March 31st, 2006, 02:48 PM
|  | This bird's for you | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Big Texas Style(s): 5Animal,Boxing,wrestling, Year(s): 17 Years
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Rep Power: 36 | | | Just a tiny bit off the subject...if you watch the "5 Deadly Venoms", you will see that the most bad*** was the "Toad" stylist. He basically was an iron palm/iron shirt practitioner. Iron training is bad to the bone....and Lohan sounds bad to the bone, too. I must say, I have led a sheltered life...so many cool styles that I see the people on this forum train in... | |
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