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June 19th, 2006, 12:50 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | How to effectively combat Iron-Body Technique Just a few questions since I'm looking for ways around Iron Body stuff and chi-attacks. Feel free to answer as many or few as you wish
1>Can bad chi be harnessed like good chi?
2>Can bad chi negate good chi on a one to one ratio?
3>What are the effects of harnessing bad chi?
4>What does bad chi "feel" like?
5>Can bad chi be used to strike at other chi more effectively?
6>Is bad chi evil?
7>Can bad chi be directed at others to negate their good chi?
8>How do you harness bad chi?
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9>If you can harness bad chi and direct it at someone using the iron body defense will it negate or reduce their defensive ability?
EDIT: I'm taking a negative/positive energy approach to chi
EDIT: how do you change the name that appears on the forums of the post?
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June 19th, 2006, 12:52 PM
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Rep Power: 220 | | | Why are you so interested in harnessing and using dark chi?
That's concerning.
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June 19th, 2006, 01:03 PM
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Posted By: Mei Hua
Why are you so interested in harnessing and using dark chi?
That's concerning. | ” | |
Ok, fine. I'm a lvl 25 necromancer who has read the entire corpse preperation series (I, II, and III) as well as N'gasta and legions of the dead wondering (morrowind in TES series) if I could use Chi to strengthen my zombies or at least keep them from decaying/stinking? Just kidding. I just want a way around the Iron body defense and I figure that it might be possible to use dark chi to negate the chi related part of it and I want to know what the consequenses of using it would be on me.
EDIT: I knew this would happen and thus I was ready with a response
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My blood calls out for the vengeance of my peoples blood, which can only be repayed with at least twice as much blood, or maybe three times as much blood, like if you went to hell and it was full of blood, and that blood was on fire, and it was raining blood...
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June 19th, 2006, 01:07 PM
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Ok, fine. I'm a lvl 25 necromancer who has read the entire corpse preperation series (I, II, and III) as well as N'gasta and legions of the dead wondering (morrowind in TES series) if I could use Chi to strengthen my zombies or at least keep them from decaying/stinking? Just kidding. I just want a way around the Iron body defense and I figure that it might be possible to use dark chi to negate the chi related part of it and I want to know what the consequenses of using it would be on me. | ” | |
The only thing you'll get from dark chi is your own a$$ handed to you because you were fool enough to think you could use it and not it you.
Positive energy will always overcome and counter any negative.
The only thing that'll help you against a skilled Iron Body practitioner is a good Iron Palm/Fist skill or better skill as a fighter, luck, or hit a point that they don't have conditioned.
Give up on trying to harness/use dark chi, that will cause you, your body, your spirit, harm and injury.
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June 19th, 2006, 01:11 PM
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Good, those that want to learn how to use and harness it in the cause of hurting others are unbalanced.
I know many instructors/teachers/masters that would not tolerate such an individual in their class, and a few that would challenge such an individual.
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June 19th, 2006, 01:41 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | To follow your pos., neg. theory. Any chi that is not used to heal or nurish a body would fall under Adverse chi, which is neg. As all chi is programmed by the mind (Shen leads the Li which leads the chi, Spirit leads mind, mind leads chi). As to address the iron shirt or body technique, To guarentee victory, avoid battle. But if battle is unavoidable, then take a close look at how the iron skin works. If the iron skin is focused chi, break the focus. Meaning before the battle distract his mind, break his focus. From quick talkin to jumpin around like a fool, then leaping into a skilled attack, you may catch them off gaurd and incress your chances of landing a sucessful strike.
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June 19th, 2006, 04:17 PM
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If you want to beat an iron body dude simply take him down and choke him out.
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June 19th, 2006, 04:33 PM
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June 19th, 2006, 04:35 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | I have come from the realm of bad chi with a few experiences and am in general agreement with Mei. Now I will answer my own questions:
1>Yes, but its generally inadvisable due to the effects you experience
2>I would say no, its best to think of it as trying to shock someone with static electricity and they are holding onto metal (at best you both get hurt, at worst you get hurt)
3>Depression, Pains all over, A serious lack of energy, and in some serious cases you can black out
4>Its like you can never be happy again and you ache afterwards
5>Static electricity example
6>It is most likely to be used for purposes other than healing which could be construed as evil
7>Static electricity example
8>you imagine a dark room and what exists inside it and then recollect every thing that scares you most being inside it OR go into a dimly lit room and look into a mirror, close your eyes until they are just barely open and look into the face of your reflection (make sure to have a switch to a very bright lightsource on hand because it gets out of control if you do it right (the imagination plays a role in this one))
9>not as much as it negates you
For the mirror example I turned on the light (I was in my bathroom) and blacked out after grasping for something to hold onto. 2 minutes later I regained consiousness in the bathtub and was in a little bit of pain.
With that in mind, Dark Chi sux bcos it costs too much on the body to be of use.
Also, I'm renaming the thread to How to effectively combat Iron Body technique.
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June 19th, 2006, 04:39 PM
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Are you guys serious?!?!?!
If you want to beat an iron body dude simply take him down and choke him out.
Peace-
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Which as I said if you are a more skilled fighter...
But in a striking game, someone with that training/conditioning can take more punishment/damage than the guy without.
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June 19th, 2006, 05:30 PM
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Rep Power: 21 | | Break the joints.
Joints are weak, certain pressures at certain angles will break them no matter how much iron body the guy has done.
Or just take him down and choke him out... 
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June 19th, 2006, 10:27 PM
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Rep Power: 150 | | | A way around the iron body defense:
- Iron body's only good if it's practiced regularly. Every day, find a way to stop the iron body person from practicing. Take him to the movies and feed him lots of ice cream. Soon he will be blubber body.
- When first training iron body, the practitioner is typically warned away from having sex for 100 days because he is building his chi. Take him to strip clubs and/or "meat market" bars weekly.
- Secretly replace his dit da jow training ointment with Taster's Choice. Let's watch what happens!
Good luck. Defeating the iron body skill takes patience and strategy, but with a little help from Ben & Jerry's you will be victorious! (in 6-12 months. Success not guaranteed. Not valid in Alaska, Hawaii, or Puerto Rico.)
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June 19th, 2006, 11:01 PM
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Another good one by Sammy. 
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June 20th, 2006, 04:39 AM
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Rep Power: 13 | | | That's not all Sammy didn't tell you about the martial use of magnets... You must find a very large magnet (preferably in the shape of a horse shoe) and then use it to realign the iron body person's electrons. If you do this often (while they are sleeping for example) they will be sucked away by the earth's magnetic pull and they will no longer be a threat. Or you could do what Cam said.
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June 20th, 2006, 10:46 AM
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