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Just yet another copy of taoist internal alchemy, calling stuff by other names, and misreading things. What you feel as a tingling might feel as if electrical, but other than very midly by nerve stimulation, it's not electrical. Wether or not you manipulate the tingling feeling in YOUR body doesn't affect anyone else. The resources you get by such internal alchemy are mostly a bigger hormone production, or stronger running metabolic processes. I can only warn people not to buy into all those "schemes" of condensing here, storing there. If you follow the original method, the mind starts to reactivate all those originally natural processes from alone. Which is more or less just sitting around in empty meditation, and accepting the natural feelings coming out of this (for example a heck of moral feelings).
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Alright... I will bite.
I have done some heavy research into the Magus of Java and read the books and talked to his students etc about this stuff. But what I am really interested in is a discussion with you Thundermind.
If you are doing these things and want to share your knowledge there are many of us here who would love to be recipients. I would like to start with some questions though.

1- how does your training coincide with the jing qi shen transformation and refinement?

2- These energy waves, pulses, bolts that you can generate what purpose do they serve? Just a fancy trick that is a by product of training or something else?
3- What martial art do you study and teach and does is this qigong training a part of the style? What is the lineage and background of it all?

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I believe everything that you say. I would say that 90% of people who claim they can project chi at people is bs because i know the truth. Take it from me if they are saying they effect people with chi then they are lying. I do not care who it is that is saying it. I proved charlatans wrong and have called them out to show and prove. The real nei chia community has a more of a put up or shut up attitude. I have heard similar stories of students who met hack chi masters. I personally hate those people who claim they can do stuff but can't because it makes the people who really can do stuff look bad. Now i have to put up with the negativity of some internal practitioner that my junior students can whip.

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Yes you are talking about the san bao method.

1. We convert jing into chi, then we convert the chi into internal power, this internal power or transmuted chi we use for higher spiritual work.

2. The energy to us is a natural part of our energy cultivation. We feel that all qigong should led you to having internal power. It should go from beginner to advance right. This is the refinement of chi. This current that runs in you will cause you to never get sick, sore, or to have inflammation again because it can exist in the presence of this current.

3. Our style is called Lei Hua Quan we are a branch off of wudang. Our fighting style heavily resembles Wudang tai chi.
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Please provide your detailed video proof and impartial witnesses that have verified this as scientifically true and not childish fantasy role playing.

I guess that was a no to this question then
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Thunderbolt.....do you here voices when no one else is around? Are you sure you haven't been watching to muched of the t.v. show Charmed? Can you vanquish demons as well? Are you a white lighter? Next you'll be saying you can orb.
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JD, do yourself a favor and never try to correct Inu's spelling or grammar again...
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JD, do yourself a favor and never try to correct Inu's spelling or grammar again...


And why is that? What did I spell wrong? It's nothing compared to her errors.

Also, why are you mentioning my correcting her on this thread? She has not even made a post on this thread. Why not tell me this on the thread that I corrected her on. Or is it that your just bored and want to b!tch about something and I was the lucky one to get elected as your target of ranting?

Besides that there have been 2 or 3 others that have corrected her spelling and grammar. Not just me.
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Or is it that your just bored .


"you're"

"you're"

"you're"

"you're"

"you're"


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"you're"

"you're"

"you're"

"you're"

"you're"



So I guess your just bored. And it's really your not you're.
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A white lighter?

That stuff sure has a kick. Do they still have to hide it from the revenooers?

I proved charlatans wrong and have called them out to show and prove. The real nei chia community has a more of a put up or shut up attitude.

Thundermind, does that mean you accept challenges?

And where's the "real" nei chia community?
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Yes i accept challenges. I have been in quite a few.

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