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Old April 22nd, 2003, 09:53 PM
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do you use herbs?

Do you use herbs
If so what do you use
How often
What do you expect them to do
Do you use them with or instead of vitamins
Do you use Chinese herbs or others
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The only ones I use right now are in herbal formulas (Dit Da Jow), and very rarely if my Sifu or any of the Senior students give me something.

I had this one root a couple of weeks ago, and I forget what it was, but it was hard as a rock and tasted like dirt. But it DID revitalize me!

I'm hoping to learn more about herbology in the future.
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I like to drink Red Tea, Ginseng, aloe
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Do you use herbs
Yes i do...

If so what do you use
mostly wat's avaliable in market...

How often
not much once or twice in month or something like that..

What do you expect them to do
well nourishing my body which even my goooood diet can't .

Do you use them with or instead of vitamins
don't take vitamins/minerals etc etc in form of capsules/pills/tonics, don't take any sort of performance enhancing drugs/herbs
i hav problem with sinus so i need to take herbs for that...

Do you use Chinese herbs or others
i use Indian herbs
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Old April 22nd, 2003, 11:09 PM
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I have a serious tea habit, all varieties but partial to jasmine, oolong and green
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I use:

Genseng=well to help restore yang Qi

cheyene pepper= to help cleanse the blood

echineacea&goldenseal to help keep toxins down

mult-vitimins= for every thing else
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I tried some cheap ginseng extracts and mixtures but they didnt have much effects. Cant afford to try the more expenive stuff atm.

They say that real ginseng is almost extinct, and all the cultivated stuff is a mere shadow of the wild ginseng.
That, the mass-produced ginseng extract is cultiwated and weak no matter if the package says it's made from 'wild' or not. That one should be extremly lucky to get the real thing. (i just read about one person who was given a root of wild ginseng as thaks for saving his life)

Dont know if this all is true, but that's what people say.
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Ginseng, saw palmeadow(for prostrate health), echineacea(reduce toxins, boost immune) and gotu kola(balance stressful peroids).
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Basil... goes well in most pasta dishes...
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relatively health people especially males under the age of 40 is best not to take herbs especially geng sing.

use chi gung instead.

Dif. kind of ging sing. Best to be prescibed. It's medicine. Depends on your constitution and what is out of balance. Whether your chi is deficient or just stuck/stagnant. If stagnant, more chi is not going to help - can make it worse.

e.g. someone with stuck liver chi drink alchohol (which moves the liver chi) there will be anger issues - such as explosive anger, irritability etc.
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are you kidin' me Allan_Tsang!!!

I take gin-seng religiously at least in the winter also I take

it for only about a 2-weeks at a time and then give it a 2-3WK

break also I outsied of TAi-Ji Quan I don't have much time

for Qi-gong medicial exercises
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<relatively health people especially males under the age of 40 is best not to take herbs especially geng sing.>

why

I would agree if you don't understand them you should be careful you have to watch what you mix
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I use dit da's, both internal and external varieties. Also for ulcer pain i have used a chinese medicine called Yunnan Baiyao that i would swear by. I have also used Gin Seng at times, the root whole not the ground up stuff you buy in a store. One of my Si Hings had a hefty supply at one time I just chewed on it like tobacco. Actually I've used so many herbs i couldn't count them all. I really don't like presecription medicine and I used mostly dit da med and tendon strengthening herbs for the pains in my arm when I tore the tendons out of my elbow. Everyday use of Dit Da on my hands has also caused the pain of my earlier "hard conditioning" to go away and all of my broken bones in my hands don't hurt anymore ( I also associate this with Iron Palm as well as dit da jow). Basically if i can use herbs for it and they work.. I'm going to lean that way. One thing I've noticed about eastern medicine that you dont see in western medicine is the ability to treat each patient's illness differently while it seems in western medicine there is a standard procedure for almost everything. I think a mixture of both is better than sticking with one.
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Before that age, the body recovers more efficiently. It is after that age (don't ask me why) that they deteriorates at a more rapid rate and harder to recover. I am thinking also of the major changes ina woman's life.

Now, before that age, energy is extracted from food (assuming you are eating healthy and balanced stuff) and transformed and transported and converted to diff. forms like blood, hormones, essence etc. So chi gung should be the best for maintaining the efficient and effective function of these organs. Bad habits like bad food, sleep habits, lifestyle posture can affect the proper function so exercise and chi gung should take care of it.

However for more acute stuff, accupuncture or massage (tuina), herbs can be necessary to get things started. E.g. a bad injury during practise may need some liniment and some tendona nd ligament repair medicine as well as some tuina or may require some bone-setting.

Summary - god eating/sleeping/posture habits along with excercise and chi gung should be all you need for maintenace.


No need to put premium gas in brand new cars or fuel injection cleaning fluids. Whena car gets older, it may require some or more of those performance enhancers.

It allows the body to take more advantage of the herbs.




As for chi gung, one should do it all day, and even in sleep if you have reconditioned yourself to breath properly.
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well....
I use some dit da jow for the regular conditioning thingies.
It's great stuff from a DragonMaster in the Chicago area. Haven't seen anything like it and best of all..... It's cheap

Don't use chinese medicine for internal use. Have seen very *bad* things happen to people who didn't know what they were taking and my knowledge on that matter isn't good enough to risk it....

Mostly I like to eat "smart"....
And there is a lot of food out there that can do wonders to keep you in shape and help you with all kinds of problems.
Food to make you strong, food to cure illness, food to "get your fluids going" etc. etc.
The keyword is balance here. There are so many ways to approach this, that it might be overwhelming. When you get carried away with it... your doing it wrong too. Don't hang on to systems, try to get the facts straight and then experiment and find out how your body reacts to it. It might take some time and sometimes people will find it hard to do, but hey... Isn't that with all good things in life

To me "smart food" means knowing what to eat, so you benefit from it as much as you can and enjoy it.

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