kung fu kung fu
kung fu
kung fu

Go Back   The Dragon's List Kung Fu Community » Healthy Living » Qi gong

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1 (permalink)  
Old May 23rd, 2003, 12:35 PM
aqira's Avatar
aqira aqira is offline
Super Moderator
Dragon's List Staff Feared Critic Best Sites Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: FLFL
Posts: 15,835
Rep Power: 100
aqira has disabled reputation
Send a message via AIM to aqira
lunar mansions

does anyone study the lunar mansions and their effects as applied to martial arts, or for calculations of conditional aspects such as in types of dim mak or chin-na applications
__________________
You are not where you have been and you are not where you are going you are only here.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old May 23rd, 2003, 03:45 PM
Taijisd's Avatar
Taijisd Taijisd is offline
Venerable Student
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 642
Rep Power: 12
Taijisd
Don't study it. Have heard of it in relation to dim mak and to a lesser degree qin na (Although the argument could be made that dim mak is an advanced qin na concept anyway - which I tend to agree with). My first exposure to this concept was in relation to making the golden pill in the dragon/tiger classic. Or am I confusing this with something else Qi cycles in the body, right As related to the cycles of the moon I'd be curious to hear more on this as well.
__________________
Taijisd


The more I know, the less I learn; the more I learn, the less I know.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old May 23rd, 2003, 05:44 PM
aqira's Avatar
aqira aqira is offline
Super Moderator
Dragon's List Staff Feared Critic Best Sites Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: FLFL
Posts: 15,835
Rep Power: 100
aqira has disabled reputation
Send a message via AIM to aqira
yes your right the 13 degree per day changes wtc... I am looking for some info from the vedic version but I think the chinese use the same calculations- but the moon blood relationship is basic I amlooking for more deeper applications...if someone understands the advanced formulas I have a lot of questions
__________________
You are not where you have been and you are not where you are going you are only here.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old March 26th, 2004, 10:36 AM
chief108's Avatar
chief108 chief108 is online now
Super Moderator
Dragon's List Staff Dragon's List Reporter Feared Critic Best Sites Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Z.O.D.
Style(s): Hardcore
Posts: 21,444
Rep Power: 100
chief108 has a reputation beyond reputechief108 has a reputation beyond reputechief108 has a reputation beyond reputechief108 has a reputation beyond reputechief108 has a reputation beyond reputechief108 has a reputation beyond reputechief108 has a reputation beyond reputechief108 has a reputation beyond reputechief108 has a reputation beyond reputechief108 has a reputation beyond reputechief108 has a reputation beyond repute
there's some information in Dr.Yang's books

not a lot tho...

Chief108
__________________
Question Authority. Question Society. Question Reality. Question Yourself. Question your conclusions, your judgments, your answers. Question this. If you question everything thoroughly enough, the truth will eventually hit you upside the head and you will know. But here’s a warning: It won’t be what you imagined. It won’t be even close.

all hail Martyr Fakka
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old April 18th, 2004, 07:57 AM
FightingFat's Avatar
FightingFat FightingFat is offline
Super Moderator
Dragon's List Staff Feared Critic Best Sites Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: South East England
Style(s): Sinclair Wing Chun
Year(s): 8
Posts: 14,535
Rep Power: 100
FightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to FightingFat
Perhaps you could fill the rest of us in on the basic concept Aqira
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old April 18th, 2004, 02:42 PM
x893's Avatar
x893 x893 is offline
Mod (Retired)
Feared Critic
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: SC
Style(s): Jujutsu,tai chi
Year(s): A few
Posts: 3,580
Rep Power: 63
x893 has a reputation beyond reputex893 has a reputation beyond reputex893 has a reputation beyond reputex893 has a reputation beyond reputex893 has a reputation beyond reputex893 has a reputation beyond reputex893 has a reputation beyond reputex893 has a reputation beyond reputex893 has a reputation beyond reputex893 has a reputation beyond reputex893 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to x893
Well....there is always lots of basic info about this is TCM books. But I think the questions you have Aqira are probably gonna require someone who's actually trained in it...LOL. Unfortunately....I cant think of anyone offhand.
Maybe RobT or Nev.
__________________
If you understand, things are just as they are; if you do not understand, things are just as they are.
-Zen proverb

From the pine tree
Learn of the pine tree.
And from the bamboo
of the bamboo
-Basho
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old April 18th, 2004, 02:46 PM
aqira's Avatar
aqira aqira is offline
Super Moderator
Dragon's List Staff Feared Critic Best Sites Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: FLFL
Posts: 15,835
Rep Power: 100
aqira has disabled reputation
Send a message via AIM to aqira
very very basic.....

The body is a part of and a representation of the cosmic universe and its components; each has an effect on the other.

So chi in cycles is effected by cosmic positions and influences There are formulas to determine what and when these effects are when and where they occur in the body.

Taijisd was right at a certain level in that more advanced dim mak studies this
__________________
You are not where you have been and you are not where you are going you are only here.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old April 18th, 2004, 03:38 PM
FightingFat's Avatar
FightingFat FightingFat is offline
Super Moderator
Dragon's List Staff Feared Critic Best Sites Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: South East England
Style(s): Sinclair Wing Chun
Year(s): 8
Posts: 14,535
Rep Power: 100
FightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond reputeFightingFat has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to FightingFat
Sounds very interesting!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old April 19th, 2004, 11:35 AM
fuzzy30's Avatar
fuzzy30 fuzzy30 is offline
Advisor
Dragon's List Staff Staff Advisor Sponsor Feared Critic Best Sites
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: N.E. Ohio, USA
Style(s): Now,primarily chi kung an
Year(s): 30-35
Posts: 3,548
Rep Power: 100
fuzzy30 has a reputation beyond reputefuzzy30 has a reputation beyond reputefuzzy30 has a reputation beyond reputefuzzy30 has a reputation beyond reputefuzzy30 has a reputation beyond reputefuzzy30 has a reputation beyond reputefuzzy30 has a reputation beyond reputefuzzy30 has a reputation beyond reputefuzzy30 has a reputation beyond reputefuzzy30 has a reputation beyond reputefuzzy30 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to fuzzy30
aqira
I am not familiar but am interested. Sounds very similar to lunar gravitational effect on water. Is this correct
Jeff(fuzzy30)
__________________
The heart is the same as heaven and earth
visit www.fuzzydragonmartialartssupplies.com
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old April 19th, 2004, 12:30 PM
aqira's Avatar
aqira aqira is offline
Super Moderator
Dragon's List Staff Feared Critic Best Sites Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: FLFL
Posts: 15,835
Rep Power: 100
aqira has disabled reputation
Send a message via AIM to aqira
I think that is one thing, though its on a larger scale...but like the moon effect on water, the same would then be for the blood, and as a carrier of energy it would have some effect.

The moon may have an effect on personality. It does have an effect on the brain.

The concept is that all universal objects have an effect. The sun is common as is the time of day, but the charts on lunar effects are rare.

I understand there are formulas that can predict certain conditions like the rise or fall of yang. In the deeper aspects there are connections with certain vital organs and the chi phases and that is the part I am interested in.

My own interest is to explore the formulas to see how effective and fast they are, but I suppose you would have to know something about how to do this in order to see if it works so it might be useless to someone with little knowledge.
I can see that their might be health benefits as well as in TCM the cycles are a major factor.

Trouble is it can be hard to find a student willing to be the test subject
__________________
You are not where you have been and you are not where you are going you are only here.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:08 AM.

LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.0.0

Fast Loans | Hummer | Cell Phones | Mortgages | Debt Help