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September 21st, 2005, 08:35 AM
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Rep Power: 5 | | These Points are not touch in the same way as in massage. It is very important to know he correct depth and angle at which they are hit, touched, or applied. They are for good and bad and exist in in most arts due to the fact they come form the same starting point.
Ask yourself where did the acupressure start and if you look at the history, I believe you will find that worked on this stuff a long time and on many many many subjects to find the points that worked.
I am not a kyusho or dimmak guy, but I would ask you if you believe points can work for good them why not for bad effects.
Also I am not in support of what these guys are doing and would not feel safe playing around with what they do. | 
October 13th, 2005, 10:39 PM
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October 14th, 2005, 01:08 AM
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Posted By: silksword
the principle behind these techniques is disrupting the yin and yang energies of the body, it is very real, but i will let you find out for yourself. | ” | |
I was looking for a laugh.....
and I found it
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October 16th, 2005, 06:29 PM
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Rep Power: 8 | | | well...you might not be able to but people can. The mind is more powerful than you think. so laugh away but people can do it.
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October 16th, 2005, 06:33 PM
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Posted By: spud well...you might not be able to but people can. The mind is more powerful than you think. | ” | |
Its a shame some people let theirs go to waste  | 
October 16th, 2005, 11:23 PM
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Rep Power: 8 | | | have you ever heard of Thich Quang Duc the monk that set himself on fire in protest of the persecution of buddhist monks in vietnam. do you not think that he had an extraordinary mind. limitless potintial. the spoon isnt the important thing, the potintial of the mind is whats important.
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October 16th, 2005, 11:38 PM
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Posted By: spud have you ever heard of Thich Quang Duc the monk that set himself on fire in protest of the persecution of buddhist monks in vietnam. do you not think that he had an extraordinary mind. limitless potintial. | ” | |
Because he set himself on fire?  | 
October 17th, 2005, 07:35 PM
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October 21st, 2005, 11:48 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | My teacher is very good at just touching you and making it hurt. I have never seen him stop a heart but he can make your arm tingle. If he grab you he likes to get under the muscle and your not geten out if he do. I have seen him knock my friend mike out one time just by striking just behind the ear. Mike talks to much. He said it is easy to question that which we do not understand. Mike don’t understand much. I keep my mouth shut. Fire good. Set on fire bad. | 
October 21st, 2005, 04:04 PM
|  | Speaker for the dead. | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Midlands UK Style(s): Lee style Year(s): since 1982
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Rep Power: 7 | | | Erm, just a quick question.
Several people have used the phrase 'No touch', and yet the rest of you are talking about acupressure.
So is there touch involved or not? | 
October 21st, 2005, 04:31 PM
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Posted By: Billy My teacher is very good at just touching you and making it hurt. | ” | |
You need to tell an adult right away! | 
October 21st, 2005, 11:52 PM
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Rep Power: 8 | | | No touch knockouts is a touchy subject, I am not going to pronounce myself on that matter. As for ''simple'' Dim Mak though (touching or striking pressure points), any serious martial artist cannot say it's fake. Dim Mak is at the core of the effectiveness of most martial arts striking movements, especially in kung fu. And let me tell you, knocking someone with one strike at the right pressure point is very possible, and even more easy to learn that a lot of people think. And by the way, most of the accupuncuture points are totally different then the Dim Mak points.
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October 22nd, 2005, 12:12 AM
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Rep Power: 46 | | | True enough, I won't refute the fact of one touch KO's. Though when I say touch, I mean a soft to medium strike. When I was in 5th grade, some punk sucker punched me from behind with a hook and hit a sweet spot in my jaw (Nerve), Everything went black. 5 seconds later everything snowed back in slowly and I was a little disoriented. He was a little guy and I've been hit in the jaw alot harder before that. Just gotta know where the sweet spot is...
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October 22nd, 2005, 09:02 AM
| | Junior Member | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NC Style(s): kUNG fU Year(s): 9 tOTAL
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Rep Power: 0 | | Ya my mom did not like it when I told her about mike getting knocked out but my teacher keeps all his touching above the waist well most of the time. No touch ya I have a hard time with that one. I think that if you can knock some one out without touching them you should be able to do a lot of other things like bending a spoon, but then again what if there is no spoon. This boarders on esp I total believe that the ability to project your energy is possible just I don’t think that man has reach that level like the dolphins. If you can prove that you can knock someone out without touching them there is a guy in south Florida that will pay you one million dollars. I forget his name I will look it up if anyone is interested. It is a challenge that he made twenty years ago that if you can prove that you have some sort of extra sensory powers you win the money. Kinda like the x prize. So far no one has succeeded. Maybe spud can bend a spoon for him. I know I can’t bend it with my mind but maybe with my head. I just push it against my forehead till it bends. It may leave a mark but it works really. Looks like it will rain later so I think I go out and play while it’s nice, yawl be well. Billy | 
October 22nd, 2005, 06:30 PM
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Rep Power: 69 | | | Everybody knows about the point on the neck, that most of these guys rely on and was used most in the video. Of course you can KO somebody with a precise "light strike" to this area as it tricks your body into thinking your blood pressure is dropping very low. But the thing is, it's not a "touch" that does it, it's a strike. These hucksters say that they are just going to touch you, but you if you pay attention, they actually deliver a nice little amount of force, also notice how important it is for them to tell there victim to RELAX, this is very important to get it to work with a light strike and why it doesn't work that way in a fight.
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