Read this if your in need of a laugh....

There was a discovery chanel program on similar items that showed Dillman's top guy "Jay" trying to knock out someone with KI (no touch involved). All the students were knocked out but the outside observer, skeptic, didn't feel anything - so the next clip shows Dillman explaining that the skeptic may have had his toes in a position, or his tongue in a certian position which negated the KI touch.

Really, please give me a break!

I don't see what's the big deal here - if you believe that acupuncture and acupressure are reall and effective, why not accept that the same system can be used in a destructive way? Now, it may or may not be applicable in a real fight situation but that's a different story.
Someone said that the meridians don't corelate to nerves, therefore it's not scientific, therefore it does'nt exist. Faulty logic.
Things don't need scientific approval to exist. Science attempts to explain the observed universe, it formulates theories - ideas that explain how somethings might work. It get's close, it not there yet.

Plus, the whole scientific attitude is one way to look at things. Just one of a number of legitimate reference-frames for dealing with what's going on here.
The question is which outlook is more benficial to you in a certain field.
It's just different terms!
EXAMPLE - I might say (since I'm a qi-gong nut-case) that I cured a headache I suffered from with a little qi boost.
A medical doctor might say it's actually placebo. what is placebo? it's the medical term for the body's natural healing powers. (don't take my word on it, check).
But the "scientific" lay-man wo'nt recognize the fact nothing has been explained. (some postulate that the placebo effect is caused by different hormons released into the blood-stream, but again, cannot explain the how).
Science does not understand how the chemo-electric interactions in our brains create awarness. Science can present pretty good models in many different areas (an illusion, according to a different attitude), but they are mostly concerned with the the WHAT and not actually with the HOW.

Wow, what a rant! Sorry... .
One last point - Science does'nt claim to know everything.
To be a hardcore skeptic is NOT to be scientific in one's approach.

Peace.

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Tim 1 Mc

You are not paying attention young man. Your point total is rapidly climbing. Your consistant posting just to post is not being accepted very well. Your posts make no sense and fit not here as you like to speak. I am not going to let your game go on.

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is there a link for that "jay" show?. i`m aware that some people here felt hocus-pocus regards to this "no-touch ki technique" but i`m kind a curious and wanted to believe.

“	Originally Posted By: allknowledgeisone that anyone depending on it to work in say a bar brawl with the adrenaline flowing is going to get ruthlessly beaten. Note that none of the armed services depend on these magic tricks in their unarmed combat training.	”

I will try my best to be breif. I am a marine their basic ma is basic at best. the training that is done with infantry,spec ops marines and other groups to the like do most definitly train extensively on nerves and pressure points.

Next I have studied several martial arts and they all towards their advanced levels practice pressure points nerves veins etc. When I began Kung Fu training which has been my most cherished experience all training is done with the emphasis on the most sensative areas be it gross or internal energy.

Finally, I am a veterinary technitian by trade (with a degree in biology,and currently going to vet school at cornell) so im not claiming MD status but I know anatomy and physiology very well. also with my internal martial arts background I am familiar with chinese medicine and philosophy. No touch knockouts (Meaning NO PHYSICAL CONTACT) I do not believe can be done on
sceptics; reason they arent swayed be power of suggestion. however as little as a few ounces of pressure to specific areas could result in a wide range of ailments, or cures, even death.

Conclusion,first perception what looks like a light touch could actually be a short distance strike using all muscle and bodyweight.Look up one inch and or three inch punch these two techniques will give you principal knowledge believe me that kind of technique is not limited to only those actions. Last point internal energy your chi. this can be transmitted easily once you have practiced enough to earn its use completely.this technique is the utmost skill it is the highest level in every martial art. cultivation and to what extent varies by person but the essence is the same. but the point is what looks like a tap, a brush if you will can do tremendous damage

by the way internal energy is real articles on this can be found in scientific journals look in the american specifically to get a westerners view.