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June 29th, 2005, 12:48 PM
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Rep Power: 104 | | Ki and health and healing Ok, so in Hap Ki Do we as well get heavily involved in as we call it Ki. There is an article in Black Belt magazine about a guy who uses Ki in self healing and his aging. How do we as people truly tap into Ki? They say that Ki is all we really need to heal orselves os sickness and disease. How do we get to the level where we can learn to focus our natural energies and healing powers, not just to speed up healing and quality of it. ( this I have been taught and work on already) but to cure ourselves of VD, Cancer, Lepracy, Scabies/Chiggers, anything that may inflict us. What does it take to reach our full potential. We use what 3% of our minds. How do we learn to do more? I would truly like to know. For me a good example. A buddy of mine, 4th Dan in ****o Ryu, has bad knees. How can we channel our Ki to reapir that damage instead of living with it of getting costly surgury that could end up hendering our Ki from completeing the true healing process?
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June 29th, 2005, 01:06 PM
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Ok, so in Hap Ki Do we as well get heavily involved in as we call it Ki. There is an article in Black Belt magazine about a guy who uses Ki in self healing and his aging. How do we as people truly tap into Ki? They say that Ki is all we really need to heal orselves os sickness and disease. How do we get to the level where we can learn to focus our natural energies and healing powers, not just to speed up healing and quality of it. ( this I have been taught and work on already) but to cure ourselves of VD, Cancer, Lepracy, Scabies/Chiggers, anything that may inflict us. What does it take to reach our full potential. We use what 3% of our minds. How do we learn to do more? I would truly like to know. For me a good example. A buddy of mine, 4th Dan in ****o Ryu, has bad knees. How can we channel our Ki to reapir that damage instead of living with it of getting costly surgury that could end up hendering our Ki from completeing the true healing process? | ” | |
A good question.
Focus, Patience, Meditation, Determination, Practice.
I had a problem with my knee about 7 years ago, blew it completely and the knee cap ended up outside the groove it sits in, tore through muscle, ligaments, etc, etc, etc. The only option was a couple of surgeries, without them I couldn't even use my leg, anyways these were pretty major reconstructive surgeries, and in the process they ended up cutting a bunch of nerves. I was told I would never do martial arts again, play any type of sport, even running was a no-no, and with the cutting of the nerves I had intense pain, or numbness most of the time. I didn't like their answers, so I didn't listen, I did Tai Chi allot, Qi Gong allot, Meditation with Qi direction allot, and over the course of a year my knee got somewhat better so I kept up with it, and continued with my training, slowly at first but as it kept getting stronger/better I got back into it with fervor.
I also did allot of acupressure, which helped significantly where drugs wouldn't.
Now, no problem with the knee in any sense of the word, after two years it was as good as new and as strong.
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June 29th, 2005, 01:13 PM
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Rep Power: 100 | | | I would say it may be better to think of to work on utilizing ki/chi development and application for enhancement to the healing process and even more important to the preventive process.
To make it all or nothing will almost always fail. For many reasons from the lack of a specific application or method to the lack of consistency in human nature to follow through with what would be required.
Another issue is the difference between self administered healing and that done by another person as they may have the same foundations at least in principal but they are not the same in application or results.
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Another issue is the difference between self administered healing and that done by another person as they may have the same foundations at least in principal but they are not the same in application or results. | ” | |
Would that be because it is unique to the individual?
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July 1st, 2005, 12:17 AM
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Here and now is all you will ever have.
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July 1st, 2005, 12:58 AM
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We use 100% of our brain.
The idea that we only use a small percentage of our brain is a myth. This isn't to say that the popular media and some very influential thinkers haven't contributed to this misconception.
Physicist Albert Einstein and anthropologist Margaret Mead have been attributed to statements that humans only use a small portion of their brains. And the advertising industry is guilty of using the idea to sell their products.
Regardless of its origin, experts in the field of neurology seem quite certain that although certain pathways in the brain may be working at different activity levels, all parts of the brain are always being used—even during sleep.
Here is a link to a page called Do We Only Use 10% of our Brain, which has more information about the topic and additional links to further your research. —The Editors http://www.infoplease.com/askeds/4-20-01askeds.html
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July 1st, 2005, 04:19 PM
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So the questions is then, do we use it to its fullest ability?
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Thanks for the info. It's great to learn something new everyday.
So the questions is then, do we use it to its fullest ability? | ” | |
yes, a very good question. Variants of the Ten-Percent Myth
The myth is not simply a static, misunderstood factoid. It has several forms, and this adaptability gives it a shelf life longer than lacquered Spam. In the basic form, the myth claims that years ago a scientist discovered that we indeed did use only ten percent of our brains. Another variant is that only ten percent of the brain had been mapped, and this in turn became misunderstood as ten percent used. A third variant was described earlier by Craig Karges. This view is that the brain is somehow divided neatly into two parts: the conscious mind which is used ten to twenty percent of the time (presumably at capacity); and the subconscious mind, where the remaining eighty to ninety percent of the brain is unused. This description betrays a profound misunderstanding of brain function research. Part of the reason for the long life of the myth is that if one variant can be proven incorrect, the person who held the belief can simply shift the reason for his belief to another basis, while the belief itself stays intact. So, for example, if a person is shown that PET scans depict activity throughout the entire brain, he can still claim that, well, the ninety percent figure really referred to the subconscious mind, and therefore the Ten-Percent figure is still basically correct. http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm | 
July 2nd, 2005, 12:11 AM
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Thanks for the info. It's great to learn something new everyday.
So the questions is then, do we use it to its fullest ability? | ” | |
Sadly, no.
If you've ever met a real Qi Gong master, or even a highly skilled practitioner, the things they can do look ( CENSORED) Incredible!
I had a chance to see a demonstration of Iron techniques and Qi Gong by the Shaolin monks, man, what they can do blows the mind!
We most likely could gain such proficiency and ability if we put more time and effort into our knowledge, skills, and training, and had the guidance of a true master. But few people put that type of effort into such things here in the states, don't get me wrong, there are people who do to that level, but not many.
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July 2nd, 2005, 12:36 AM
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Sadly, no.
If you've ever met a real Qi Gong master, or even a highly skilled practitioner, the things they can do look (CENSORED) Incredible!
I had a chance to see a demonstration of Iron techniques and Qi Gong by the Shaolin monks, man, what they can do blows the mind!
We most likely could gain such proficiency and ability if we put more time and effort into our knowledge, skills, and training, and had the guidance of a true master. But few people put that type of effort into such things here in the states, don't get me wrong, there are people who do to that level, but not many. | ” | |
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June 8th, 2007, 11:20 PM
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June 9th, 2007, 07:16 PM
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Rep Power: 170 | | | I've heard a saying (and I'm mangling it here) that a doctor can prescribe medicines and treatments but it's really the body that heals. And I've seen people who want to die, just not get well or completely well, or who are really sick and once they decide they want to die, just die. Conversely, people with grave injuries or illness who genuinely want to get well, do so. It's not 100% either way -- people who really want to live end up dying, and vice versa.
And there is the placebo effect, seen when patients take part in blind studies -- one group gets the new medicine, one doesn't -- and people in the group that doesn't get medicine will feel better anyway, even get well.
Chi is such an intrinsic part of the self and yet it can't necessarily be controlled or directed in the way that we think it can. But IMO it plays a direct role in many of the intangibles of our lives and is a large part of the "connectedness" we feel to other living things.
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