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May 30th, 2006, 03:22 PM
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Posted By: Supreme-Drunkard
I don't know what I wanna do anymore lol. I think I still want him to do it because I'm curious myself and I don't want him to get locked up for my own curisoity. | ” | |
You're not looking at this right, If he lacks the control to safly demonstrate and still does so and kills you then he should be locked up. Its the same as if you were a knife expert and made me sign a "death waver" to train with you. If you stab be to death in class its not excused just because I knew there was a chance something bad could happen. So he would be getting locked up becasue he killed you, not because you were curious. If you really think he can kill you with the stuff and that he lacks the control not to(or is unwilling to control it) then don't do it. Don't let a peice of paper intimidate you though whatever you decide to do.
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May 30th, 2006, 04:08 PM
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Rep Power: 168 | | | The whole "waiver of death" is simply there to do exactly what it's doing. It places doubt in the person's mind and scares them into not wanting to see the demo. He knows he can't do what he claims so he resorts to the "waiver of death" red herring. If you had agreed to sign the waiver, he would have then informed you that it would cost you $50000.00 to partake in the demo.
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May 31st, 2006, 05:22 AM
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May 31st, 2006, 06:51 AM
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Rep Power: 149 | | SD : "oh yea and if you don't know by now... I'm scared to undergo a demo If I have to sigh a waver of death....I'm not gonna lie. I'm terified. "
i am not one for giving peer pressure
but really this is the chance of a life time to train with a REAL psychic master for god's sake
go on call his bluff
and if it does cost $$$$ then reconsider 
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May 31st, 2006, 12:17 PM
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Rep Power: 10 | | | like Cam said, the waiver of death is to scare you - either scare you out of doing it -
OR to terrify you if you actually accept it - If you're scared then you're slightly convinced and more open to suggestion.
Think:
If someone just randomly tells you to stand somewhere, then does whatever it is these guys do - i.e. maybe a punching movement - maybe a shout of some sort, chances are you'll think "what the heck - was something meant to happen"
if someone says "I can knock you out/manipulate you rmotely using chi, but first you'll have to sign a waiver of death" acting deadly serious, there may be enough doubt to cause you to "feel" a strong effect.
I'm not disputing everything, but to me this death waiver is a deterrent or showmanship and patter. | 
May 31st, 2006, 10:07 PM
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May 31st, 2006, 10:25 PM
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Don't know what you are worried about... apparently he is not going to hit you anyway...? | ” | | 
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June 1st, 2006, 01:41 AM
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Rep Power: 9 | | I'm not worried about getting hit at all. I'm beyond that. Well its not only that but he did sounds quiet upset when I asked him to demo it on me and he basically said he diddin't care wheather people belive or not. It seemed suspisious to me in more ways than one but he also made it clear that I should go see him...So....I'm thinking a peice of paper  or my life  ...I think I'll go with the paper....But If on the 10 a clock news I expect you to be at my funeral...all of you. LMAO
Im gonna go see him ok
o yea Cam He did mention sumthin about money for a demo....I just forgot how much he said.
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June 1st, 2006, 04:55 AM
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Posted By: Supreme-Drunkard
I don't know what I wanna do anymore lol. I think I still want him to do it because I'm curious myself and I don't want him to get locked up for my own curisoity. | ” | |
I dont know weather its because of the kitten avatar, or maybe some kind of abnormaly wrong instinct. But I found that rather cute, hehe
Honestly buddy, move on. The guy isnt a legit MAist. | 
June 1st, 2006, 05:58 AM
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June 1st, 2006, 06:48 AM
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yeah they should never have been given a recording contract
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June 8th, 2006, 07:56 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | The original questions.
1.yes But a far possibility. I do not practice but as far as i have read about chi it is said that all those people with supernatural abilities have just increased their chi by 3-4%. With that you can feel the light magentic and peculiar feeling everyone has commented about. So why cannot this be possible is say theoritically a person is able to increase his chi by 30% or even more.
Scientifically it is possible too. Quantum Physics !!!!!
It is possible and much more. But we have just led ourseleves to believe that we cannot do it.
I know many common ppl who still dont believe what some of you have experienced. There is no difference between their thought and yours. Only difference is the level. So one thing is sure wethere someone can do it or no but all those you said it is not possible will never be able to even get above what they think is possible even after years of chi training.
I was just like a quote i had seen as som eone sig. "scientist have proved that a human being cannot jump more than 30feet but i dont believe because thoughts have a way of sinking into your feet"- carl lewis ( i dont remember the exact quotes. | 
June 9th, 2006, 05:36 AM
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Rep Power: 29 | | | The Roxburytaichi clip... well. No.
However there are more skills to influence someone than just hitting very hard, some can be done without contact while others require at least a light contact, a touch, a grip whatever.
Saying this would be "chi" is an explanation model - saying this is "inner movement" or "induced motion" is a different way of explaining.
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June 9th, 2006, 05:37 AM
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Rep Power: 29 | | | The Roxburytaichi clip... well. No.
However there are more skills to influence someone than just hitting very hard, some can be done without contact while others require at least a light contact, a touch, a grip whatever.
Saying this would be "chi" is an explanation model - saying this is "inner movement" or "induced motion" is a different way of explaining.
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June 20th, 2006, 10:31 PM
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Im gonna go see him ok  | ” | |
so... did you go see him? What happened?
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