Valid History of Wudang Neigong?

We're speaking of WEIGHT, not "energy" aka electric, magnetic field, etc. which can reach through matter. The imagination that your weight "transcends" the object you stand on might help you relaxing and balancing, but that doesn't mean you really do that.

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That's true. I guess you have to know where to look. Also the objects moved or smashed when he yelled. Don't know to much about Qi projection but it does sound a little rigged to me.

Well, there's always the hidden stooge with a .BB Gun trick. That's how a lot of magicians do the trick where they get random people to shatter a wine glass with their mind.

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“	We're speaking of WEIGHT, not "energy" aka electric, magnetic field, etc. which can reach through matter. The imagination that your weight "transcends" the object you stand on might help you relaxing and balancing, but that doesn't mean you really do that.	”

Indeed.


A lot of demonstrations are parlor tricks. not all... but a lot.

You want to do a light body demo...

Get 6 balloons... put 2 inside a third one and do the same with the other three to give yourself a pair. When you blow htme up there is a buffer of air between all three. One set of three for each leg (to clear up any confusion). Now place a 2x4 over the pair and you can stand on the balloons and demonstrate light skill.

psyche.



For impervious skin. Fill a bucket with vinegar... put a thin top layer of oil and light it on fire. Now allow people to smell it and observe that it really is oil. Now stick your arm in and pull it out. WOW! the crowd is fooled and the real MA guys scoff.. hhahaha.

Having a dad who is a 30+ year long practicing magician kinda takes the fun out of these tricks. But some people will believe it simply because they want the fantasy to be real.

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I'm not surprised to be honest. I'm just saying that some stooges will do anything to make money.

“	Originally Posted By: Nik Shaolin has a long history of deeply internal practices, making them a largely accepted source of knowledge for practices for internal strength and skills. Just their beginners practice is "external" workouts, go figure. BTW, noone tell them they should write it "Fong San Do" to get a bit more correct.	”

The only internal practice practiced by the Shaolin is the 13th... or was it the 11th....

“	Originally Posted By: brianlkennedy Kind of tying in with what The Pope Wingnut said; Wudang is many things: It is a mountain region in China. It is a marketing name (like Evian bottled water). It was, in the past (Qing dynasty and before), home to a number of functioning Daoist temples of various sects. It was in the past a kind of hotbed for the practice of a whole range of Daoist practices. It was not (not!) the home of any major Chinese martial arts system (pakua, xingyi, taiji; all were developed in other, largely urban, places). Nowadays it is a major martial arts tourist trap. Although they are kind of Johnny come late, sucking hind tit, behind the MBA run and Peoples Liberation Army owned Shaolin Temple; the Wudang Tourist Temple program is starting to gear up. The use of Wudang as being a category of Chinese martial arts which included pakua, taiji and xingyi was a political/marketing invention of the 1930s. It is kind of interesting from a martial arts history and economics viewpoint. The Great Wudang Clan versus Shaolin Temple Battle was being fought and continues to be fought over $$$$ money, honey. The battle is fairly recent and was fought in two major waves; the first in the 1930s when the two major groups started grabbing at the disposable income of Chinas new middle class and battling to get more of the National Guo Shu money pie. Then second major battle is being waged now. The Shaolin Temple has the advantage; their Abbot has got his Masters of Business Administration from some U.S. university (maybe Stanford) and the backing of the PLA. The Wudang Clan in comparison is a bunch of disorganized clowns but, the Wudang area is actually prettier than the Shaolin Temple and they can offer even more bizarre training regimes; shoot chi balls out your ass, live forever, our chi gong is better than a whole box of Viagra, and so on. Without having a Certified Public Accountant have a look at their books, it is hard to say which side is winning the current battle. Judging by what Stan Henning has told me about the Shaolin Temple Inc. industry; “about 50 some martial arts training schools with a total of around 80,000 domestic and foreign students in the town of Dengfeng, outside Shaolin Monastery alone”, it sounds like the Shaolin Inc is a wee bit ahead. To get to kind of the theme of this thread, the historical roots of Wudang practices. That is easy, the claims are utter horsedroppings. As are all the Shaolin Temple claims. Wudang was an area famous for its Daoist scholarship (for example Sun Lu Tang went their to study qigong and the Yi Jing). But that is not martial arts. By the way if you want to buy a belt degree in China, the government agency in charge of martial arts belts has established a degree/belt program now and even foreigners can apply for a degree (for a fee naturally), upwards of $300 for a 9th Degree certification I think. So, it is not just the North American shysters, Capitalism is king in the Chinese martial arts world too. Take care, Brian Doctor of Chinese Martial Arts Money-ology	”

You are correct in saying that a huge martial arts form was not created in Wudang. To be more accurate, in later times their were sub-forms developed their from already established martial arts forms.

Wudang is more famously know for one of the two Daoist temples/schools. Two were built in different locations, one tought strictly only the philosophical aspects of daoism while the other (Wudang or Wu Tang Shan) taught both Daoist philosophy and martial arts.

“	Originally Posted By: Ben Grimm I have had friends train in Shaolin and Wudang. Foreigners only learn the contempary wushu varieties of Shaolin and/or any of the Wudang techniques. I suggest you find a real teacher and save your money and time.	”

Come on, for the price they are asking? Its a holiday. An experience.

And a waste of time and money.

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