What is Chi?

(you should introduce yourself on the new members page)

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I'm sorry I neglected to introduce myself on the newcomer's forum, but you'll find it there now.

wow,

I thought chi was the unseen substance, the life force that makes the stuff in chi-a pets grow.

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Chi is the basic energy unit that composes all things. It moves in two patterns, wave and particle; the particle is a wave that travels with a spin. Like I stated previously, chi either gravitates or radiates. Matter oscillates somewhere between the two stages of gravity and radiation, and exhibits patterns of both.

Erik have you ever published any articles in any kung fu magazines

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“	Originally Posted By: ErikMcBride Chi is the basic energy unit that composes all things. It moves in two patterns, wave and particle; the particle is a wave that travels with a spin. Like I stated previously, chi either gravitates or radiates. Matter oscillates somewhere between the two stages of gravity and radiation, and exhibits patterns of both.	”

So are you saying chi could be "measured" in units similar to those already used for energy I'm confused by what you mean by "basic energy unit." Do you mean it's what makes up the subatomic particles

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Yeah...to be honest...I think your definition is substituting the word "chi" for some scientific term straight out of a physics textbook.
I dont know if I agree with much of the definition...because I dont think chi is necessarily a subatomic particle, wave/particle energy. I dont think we can use current scientific terms to describe it...because it may very well be something else.

But welcome aboard

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Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting it. I think chi *could* be described in a scientific sense, we just haven't gotten to that point yet. I basically think of chi right now as bio-electrical energy. But then, what IS energy

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“	Originally Posted By: ErikMcBride Basically, by turning on these mitochondria, you are able to take advantage of the natural magnetic field of the earth and you are able to channel it through your bones to produce electricity and thus feed your mitochondria with energy that can be turned from electrical to chemical state. So you see how you can use chi to feed your body and sustain you without food.	”

I didn't know that you could shut off mitochondria, I was told that they were always working to make ATP out of sugars and oxygen.

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What is often thought of as chi is sometimes a residual effect. The electromagnetic principals that are sometimes measured can be produced from different sources. One of those source appears to be a generation of a type motion that moves through the body leaving a trace in certain spectral ranges that can be detected. Often referred to as an aura.

Chi itself is a general word having many meanings much like the word energy, it often becomes a catch all word for different phenomena

The breath intermixing with the nourishment replenishing the body can be manipulated and some Qigong concepts work with these issues however those are physical things and the interaction of those physical things can be accountable and replicated and the results measured.
The mystery element either energy at minute levels or the life force itself would exist in and effect all of the 4 realms of power.

The ability to use chi in martial arts as described I agree with, but the way it is developed is not absolute.
The development process is a varied process other cultures have developed other methods of discovery development and application.

Interesting thread

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In response to my publishing history: No, I have not done so as of yet.
This explanation of chi is merely a surface scratch. Chi is the basic energy that makes up all other forms of energy and therefore matter as well. It is a vibration. It is not something that vibrates, chi is the vibration. Some chi vibrates very slowly, and some chi vibrates very fast. Some chi is more gravitating than others, while others are so radiating that it seems there is no gravitating in it. Yin chi, the "water" chi, is gravitating; Yang chi, the "fire" chi, is radiating.

This is speculation and self-made "definition" of qi without much respect to the original context, therefore, moved to "Qi Lounge". This section is for KNOWLEDGE on TCM, not speculation far, far away from it.

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Page 42 of "The Essence of Shaolin White Crane, Martial Power and Qigong" by Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming, paragraph 5: "In China, Qi is defined as any type of energy which is able to demonstrate power and strength.. This energy can be electricity, magnetism, heat or light."

What I posted was pretty far from speculation.

What is a graviton a graviton is a hypothetical particle with zero charge and zero rest mass that is held to be the quantom of a gravitational field.

What is a radion (no definition available to post.)

What is mitochondria any of various round or long cellular organells of most eukaryotes that are found outside the nucleus, produce energy for the cell through cellular respiration, and are rich in fats, proteins and enzymes (merriam-webster dictionary.) Mitochondria change one chemical to usable energy through the process of Aerobic Respiration, which has two phases: The Krebs Cycle and the Electron Transport Chain. Chemical-Electrical-Chemical.

There is no speculation whatsoever in my posting. Rather, you have failed to inform yourself properly on the subject.

Are you familiar with the difference between Newtonian and Einsteinian Physics

Here's a little suggested reading on the topic of chi:

The Root of Chinese Qigong-The Secrets of Qigong Training, by Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming

Foundations of Tibetan Mysticism by Lama Anagarika Govinda

A Complete Guide To Chi-Gung by Daniel Reid

Basic Electricity by The Bureau of Naval Personnel

Tai Chi Classics translated by Waysun Liao pub. by Shambhala

Psychic Vampires by Dr. Joe H. Slate, Ph. D.

A Practical Guide to Vibrational Medicine by Dr. Richard Gerber, M.D.

Course of Advanced Lessons in Clairvoyance and Occult Powers by Swami Panchadasi

The Dictionary of Cell and Molecular Biology, 3rd Edition by Academic Press


The duty to keep oneself informed relies upon the individual. Please do not make brash assumptions on any subject. This mentality is the same type that Copernicus and Galileo had to deal with in their time. Where you perceived the idea that this was all assumption completely bewilders me.

Ahh yes! And as far as electromagnetics being able to cause objects to incandesce, levitate, be torn apart, be molded together, fling them around or make them transparent...well, that's proven fact.