elections??

“	Originally Posted By: KungFu Krissy If I had registered Independant, I would not be able to vote in the primaries, and that is important to me.	”

What does that mean

And isn't it something opening the door wide to manipulations because you can see already from the registration what someone is going to vote for This would be impossible in Germany, and in most if not any other democratic country in the world. BTW, in Germany, you get a postcard to the one address you are registered living at (this is tracked, by your birth documents), and if you don't have that card, you are not going to vote.

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“	Originally Posted By: Nik What does that mean And isn't it something opening the door wide to manipulations because you can see already from the registration what someone is going to vote for .	”

It doesn't (can't) tell anyone who you are going to vote for.

On the terrorism danger, which I suppose to be GREAT, in the US, and anywhere else, I have to state the following:

1. Bush did NOT do a good job at it in the days up to and LEADING to 9/11. The security report BEFORE that date already mentioned that Bin Ladens group was going to attack the US with hijacked plane. Just, noone read that f.... report, and sacrificed thousands of people by not reading it. You can make an argument for him that it's the DUTY of the secret services and their coordinators to read such reports, and take actions on their own. I would tend to attribute it to a lazy moral. If I get people in life and death matters on laziness, I would hang them by the intesticles as a warning for the rest, and the new people I get into their jobs.

2. Bombing away on "terrorist hideouts" (add the SUPPOSED almost every time) does not take out a single terrorist useable in coordinated actions in Europe or the US. It's cookies for the frightened, but it's completely dysfunctional against real terrorism. You get, hopefully, the stupids loving to behead someone like it's a sports, because none of that chickens ever had the guts to fight Saddam. Real terrorists sleeping in their hide are not located in Afghanistan anymore, and not in Iraq. They would be too easy to spot if coming from Iraq, so they either already are in the US, or would come from Europe, with Britain passports, spanish, french, german ones.

3. Following from that, you have to take POLICE actions. Secure everything that can be taken as weapon at large scale (explosives carrier, or explosive on its own). Simple things as heavily secured c0ckpit doors, which was complained about by the companies for the plain weight and "comfort". Comfort Do they watch TV The whole thing is a secret service and police duty, not something for the B52. But Bush does a great job at denying it, because people have better eyes than minds, and a blast looks so much better on TV than a bloke in a lawyer suit explaining facts. The existance of suicide bombers driving trucks filled with simple explosives is a huge danger, but all you can do is to secure the possible targets, and search for possible hideouts LOCALLY. I am really fearful about single person suicide bombers blasting people, but I don't think Bush with all his simple thinking is the man to make plans preventing it. Prevention means you have to get their hands off explosives, and find terrorists before they can execute a plan. That is a real big task. And you need someone who is DRIVEN by the feeling of being responsible, doing anything necessary. Such as, guarding 400 tons of explosives in a known, unsecured location.

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“	Originally Posted By: Unkotare It doesn't (can't) tell anyone who you are going to vote for.	”

How large do you think is the percentage of registered republicans voting Kerry, and vice versa Anything below 50% means, you would benefit from excluding a certain group from "your" election.

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“	Originally Posted By: Nik How large do you think is the percentage of registered republicans voting Kerry, and vice versa	”

We don't know because it's a secret ballot.

“	Originally Posted By: Nik On the terrorism danger, which I suppose to be GREAT, in the US, and anywhere else, I have to state the following: 1. Bush did NOT do a good job at it in the days up to and LEADING to 9/11. .	”

I'm sure that Clinton will be sorry to hear your criticism of him.

“	Originally Posted By: Nik 2. Bombing away on "terrorist hideouts" (add the SUPPOSED almost every time) does not take out a single terrorist useable in coordinated actions in Europe or the US. .	”

Once again, it's nice to see that the kung-fu community knows better about these things than anyone else.

“	Originally Posted By: Nik 3. Following from that, you have to take POLICE actions. Secure everything that can be taken as weapon at large scale (explosives carrier, or explosive on its own). Simple things as heavily secured c0ckpit doors, which was complained about by the companies for the plain weight and "comfort". Comfort Do they watch TV The whole thing is a secret service and police duty, not something for the B52. But Bush does a great job at denying it, because people have better eyes than minds, .	”

Well hell, we should just make you the president. You seem to know better than anyone.

“	It doesn't (can't) tell anyone who you are going to vote for.	”

I don't understand the logic behind this. Why do you have to register either republican or democrat (except obviously to vote in the primaries as Krissy said, although I'm not sure what the primaries are) Why would someone register as a democrat, if they were going to vote republican

“	Originally Posted By: phyl I don't understand the logic behind this. Why do you have to register either republican or democrat (except obviously to vote in the primaries as Krissy said, although I'm not sure what the primaries are) Why would someone register as a democrat, if they were going to vote republican	”

You don't have to register dem or repub. You can register independent if you choose. And registering with a party doesn't bind your vote at all. Vote for whoever you want. Tons of dems voted for Reagan. A fair number of repubs voted for clinton against Dole.

“	Originally Posted By: Unkotare Well hell, we should just make you the president. You seem to know better than anyone.	”

oh cool...

president Nik.....

some how....
this scares me as well


but it could be fun and [edited for bushbashing]!!!!!
hahahahaha!!!!!

Chief108

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“	Originally Posted By: Unkotare Well then it should be easy enough to provide proof.	”

Of COURSE they proved it and the little petition group was shut down. They were also entitled to be charged with a 3rd degree felony for forgery, but someone made that go away.
3000 democratic Floridian students were "moved" to different district.

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“	Originally Posted By: bsd_tector I totally buy the 19 year old draft dodger's story. .	”

Btw, there is no draft to dodge. Perhaps you are mistakenly referring to registering with selective service

“	Originally Posted By: bsd_tector Of COURSE they proved it and the little petition group was shut down. They were also entitled to be charged with a 3rd degree felony for forgery, but someone made that go away. 3000 democratic Floridian students were "moved" to different district.	”

Great. Show me your proof. There have been attempts at voter fraud ever since there has been voting. By both sides. Just point me to the proof of this interesting story.

Unk, we're fighting a losing battle here, so let's just look at the facts:

1. The governments of Canada, Germany, England and Holland are obviously far superior to ours.
2. Foreigners know more about our country and what's going on than we do.
3. Republicans are evil warmongers.
4. Even when someone votes twice for President on one ballot, or doesn't vote for President, their vote should still be counted.
5. Americans are regularly snatched off the streets and forced to fight in Iraq- if they refuse, they are "black-balled".

Does that about sum it up

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