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March 31st, 2004, 05:57 PM
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Rep Power: 22 | | | I guess..I don't mind the leg in the crotch...in wrestling I go for it...that's what a "snatch single" is.
I don't really feel at risk of getting elbowed in the back of the head when I single though...just me
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March 31st, 2004, 06:20 PM
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Posted By: Blizake
I don't really feel at risk of getting elbowed in the back of the head when I single though...just me | ” | |
Yeah, I guess it all depends on thier position. But like I said, if the opening presents itself, take it! 
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March 31st, 2004, 06:51 PM
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Rep Power: 22 | | | That's where grappling training comes in and really "shooting a single leg" rather than "grabbing one leg and working the guy to the ground." I suppose
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March 31st, 2004, 07:06 PM
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Rep Power: 157 | | | “ | I don't really feel at risk of getting elbowed in the back of the head when I single though...just me | ” | |
Ahhh, the beauty of knowing proper technique....
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March 31st, 2004, 07:08 PM
|  | Ye Zhi Xiang | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Thereabouts Year(s): 14
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Rep Power: 6 | | | I like to step through and drop for a leglock. Generally very unexpected, and a single leg allows for good position. |
March 31st, 2004, 07:36 PM
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Posted By: Blizake
That's where grappling training comes in and really "shooting a single leg" rather than "grabbing one leg and working the guy to the ground." I suppose | ” | |
You read my mind... |
March 31st, 2004, 08:22 PM
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Posted By: livingfiction
I like to step through and drop for a leglock. Generally very unexpected, and a single leg allows for good position. | ” | |
I disagree. With people that have been leglocked and train them, I think they always "suspect" one when one leg is secluded and controlled. I know I am almost paranoid of them, even though my defense appears to be above average for my skill level.
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March 31st, 2004, 08:56 PM
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Posted By: Blizake
That's EXACTLY what he's asking you. Getting the leg is the first part....now what do you do to be something other than a guy holding a lone leg looking like a chump (getting sprawled/whizzered/brawled/pulled to guard). | ” | |
Not quite sure what you guys are describing but IF I was standing holding the other guy's leg, (assuming I was within the correct range) I would use a side or instep kick to his other knee. |
March 31st, 2004, 09:31 PM
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Posted By: Fu-Pau
Not quite sure what you guys are describing but IF I was standing holding the other guy's leg, (assuming I was within the correct range) I would use a side or instep kick to his other knee. | ” | |
You're right...you aren't sure. That has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
And no offense, but I suggest the single over what you were describing. Try taking them down, then kicking the knee you're holding. That REALLY causes problems.
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April 1st, 2004, 12:21 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | Twist and turn. I always drive forwards first so they go for the sprawl so I rotate in the direction of the leg that I have. Depending on how they defend I also like to trip their supporting leg. |
April 1st, 2004, 01:28 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | What Fu-Pau is describing is the same as a foot sweep, essentially. I think it's a valid move, and can be quite effective.
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April 1st, 2004, 01:41 AM
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Rep Power: 157 | | | For a true single leg I always try to get my penetration... if it goes well, I will grab the ankle and drive my shoulder into the knee to force hyperextension of the joint and "persuade" the opponent to lay down for me. If he sprawls well, I HOPE he doesn't crossface me and take my back. If he attempts, I abandon the grip on the leg. If he sprawls but doesn't crossface and we both wind up standing back up but I have high control on the leg (around the thigh) I will kick the s**t out of his posted leg, assuming there is strikng involved (not to shin or knee but right above the achilles tendon). If we are strictly grappling (no striking) I will go with what Migo stated above.... I will "corkscrew" down and in the direction of the leg that I have control of trying to "whip" the opponent down to the ground. I will also use the trip against the post leg.
Livingfiction is also correct... setting up a leglock from here is very viable, depending on how they are defending.
I have modified all of my takedowns so that I don't wind up in guard so a lot of wrestlers always wonder about some of the quirky things I do... like the position of where I post my head and such. I did this because I used to feel REALLY vulnerable in someone's guard (my passing was weak) so I tried to stay out of it. Now I am more confident in my guard passing and defense (Thanks Chainsaw!!!!) so my takedowns are slightly different from the standard ones that many of you are familiar with in order to stay out of chokes, guard and half guard.
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April 1st, 2004, 02:01 AM
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Posted By: Sinister Minister
What Fu-Pau is describing is the same as a foot sweep, essentially. I think it's a valid move, and can be quite effective. | ” | |
I thought it was one of those "I'd kick the knee and shatter it causing instantanious paralysis" things. Yeah, sweeps are sweet moves.
And just so everyone knows...Cam has a sweeter low single than a lot of wrestlers I know. And FAST
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April 1st, 2004, 02:06 AM
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April 1st, 2004, 02:09 AM
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Posted By: Fu-Pau
... almost sorry i bothered posting anything... | ” | |
Well, if you are talking about a sweeping of the base leg, then I publically apologize as you are completely right with a valid and effective move. I'm sorry.
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