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August 7th, 2007, 04:44 PM
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Posted By: fieryhorse 
Gecko and seahorse aren't ground, just dried. In the US, the seahorse isn't sold now, to protect them. | ” | |
Not really, I can readily get both of those ingredients; theyre just kind of expensive. Only reason I dont keep a stock of Seahorse is because its a powerful ingredient that very few people have any use for. |
August 7th, 2007, 04:51 PM
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August 7th, 2007, 05:01 PM
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August 7th, 2007, 10:33 PM
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August 9th, 2007, 06:56 PM
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Posted By: PlumDragon
Not really, I can readily get both of those ingredients; ... | ” | |
Where at?
regarding bone sustitutes, lions and jaguars will do, but most are protected.
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August 9th, 2007, 10:13 PM
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Posted By: fieryhorse
Where at?
regarding bone sustitutes, lions and jaguars will do, but most are protected. | ” | |
There are a couple different places I can get that sort of thing at, but it is definitely not as commonplace as most stuff. If you need any let me know and Id be happy to give you a good price--Ill be putting in a big restocking order soon so it would be a good time to get some.
No need to go after Lions and Jaguars--treated long gu or long chi are decent substitutions, although they dont exactly replacate the actions of hu gu, and are not as strong. Fortunately, both are in good supply and not expensive.
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August 10th, 2007, 03:05 PM
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What is long chi? Where are you based at, and how much is for shipping? |
August 10th, 2007, 03:26 PM
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I am based in Madison, AL. Shipping is $5 for any orders under 1 pound, shipped Priority Mail. Check your PM for more info...
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August 11th, 2007, 09:36 PM
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Plus it's good on toast | ” | |  I enjoy mine on my pancakes. Nothing like a big, waxy, cooling gut of Tiger Balm to get you going in the morning!
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August 11th, 2007, 11:54 PM
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September 3rd, 2007, 04:43 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | Use of Tiger bone is just stupid. Anything it does can also be done with plants....if it actually has an effect at all.
If I had to hazard a guezz, I bet you could leave it out of a formula, not substitute for it, and get the same results anyway.
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September 3rd, 2007, 08:53 AM
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Posted By: Royal Dragon
Use of Tiger bone is just stupid. Anything it does can also be done with plants....if it actually has an effect at all.
If I had to hazard a guezz, I bet you could leave it out of a formula, not substitute for it, and get the same results anyway.
It's one of those things that is more of legend, than reality. | ” | |
Its actually the bone we need for calcium matrix. Tiger bone and other bones tend to be in Iron Palm formulas as well as some major injury formulas as well as tonic formulas where you want to have a decent supply of calcium to the bones to give the body a signal as to what you need to either repair or strengthen.
The use of bones only of tigers is silly and outdated. I use beef bone and stallion bones when I can get my hands on them as well as wild boar bone. You need it in the formulas and you cannot get it from all plants. A decent formula will have all forms of life in it for maximum power. Plant, animal, insect, etc...
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September 11th, 2007, 09:04 PM
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Posted By: Dale Dugas67
A decent formula will have all forms of life in it for maximum power. Plant, animal, insect, etc... | ” | |
There is also a thing in TCM called "essence". Tiger bones have something other bones don't (i.e. Earth power), Ginseng has something other herbs don't, and so on. So, all those ingredients are there for a reason!
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Reason: spelling
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September 13th, 2007, 07:17 PM
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and ah-peen.-all illegal in my neck of the woods, what can be used as a substitute? |
September 13th, 2007, 07:18 PM
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Rep Power: 9 | | | also, while my herbalist can get seahorse, he can no longer get seadragon-it looks like a seahorse, only straight. Can you get these? | |
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