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If you have a farm store nearby, a buddy of mine swears by Absorbine Veterinary (horse) Liniment either in gel or liquid form. Through many years of police work, crash and burns, martial arts, and plain old clumsiness, he has found Absorbine horse liniment works wonders.

Her is a link regarding it:
Products: Absorbine, sore muscles, aches, arthritis, pain relief, herbal extracts

Chinese Sports Medicine is what the monks, both Buddhist and Taoist, would study and practice. They would allow for healing of both the warriors and those that they fought against. Two very famous students of these folk healing techniques were Sun Lu Tang in the north and Wong Fei Hung in the south. These two folk heroes are well known for their fighting skills and for there ability to heal those who are sick or wounded.

Dit Da Jow is used for injuries incurred during training. The name translates into “medicated wine” and is a liniment that is made up a verity of herbs placed into white rice wine or something comparable. It is rubbed onto wounds like bumps and burses to facilitate faster healing.
In the past, every school had a Dit Da Jow and it was a closely guarded secret. Only the teachers knew the ingredients to the liniment and would only share it with their most trusted students. However, times have changed. Below are the ingredients to Sensei Brian Nell's personal Dit Da Jow, and what each herb does. If you are in need of herbs, or would rather buy a bottle ready to use, feel free to email Sensei Brian Nell.

The following is mixed into 1 gallon of rice wine*. It takes a minimum of three months to brew, and the longer the stronger. Once a day try to shake the mixture. (*The amount listed makes a great amount. Try cutting in half or in quarters.)
To apply, put a small amount onto the ball of the thumb, or the pads of the fore and middle finger. Massage the wounded area, and slowly work out past the edge of the wound.

Pin Yin Name: Yan Hu Suo
Common Name: Corydalis Rhizome
Botanical Name: Corydalis Yanhusuo Rhizoma
Actions: nervous sedative, analgesic (9g)

Pin Yin Name: Ru Xiang
Common Name: Frankincense
Botanical Name: Olibanum Gummi (Boswelia Carterii)
Actions: anti-inflammatory, mucostatic, muscular relaxant, emmenagogue (12g)

Pin Yin Name: Mo Yao
Common Name: Myrrh
Botanical Name: Myrrha
Actions: vulnerary, analgesic, anti-fungal, detumescent (12g)

Pin Yin Name: Chi Shao
Common Name: Peony Root - Red
Botanical Name: Paeoneae Rubrae Radix
Actions: uterine restorative, astringent coronary dilator, anti-inflammatory, antibacterial (12g)

Pin Yin Name: Hong Hua Fen
Common Name: Safflower Flower Powder
Botanical Name: Carthamus Tinctorius Flos
Actions: cardiovascular / coronary restorative, circulatory (9g)

Pin Yin Name: Tao Ren
Common Name: Peach Kernel
Botanical Name: Prunus Persica Semen
Actions: uterine relaxant, analgesic, uterine stimulant (9g)

Pin Yin Name: Dang Gui
Common Name: European Angelica, Garden Angelica, Wild Angelica.
Botanical Name: Radix Angelicae Sinensis
Actions: Tonifies blood, alleviate pain, reduce swellings, generate flesh (12g)

Pin Yin Name: San Leng
Common Name: Scirpus Rhizome
Botanical Name: Sparganium stoloniferum
Actions: Liver and spleen, bitter, removes blood stagnation, stops pain (9g)

Pin Yin Name: Da Huang
Common Name: Rhubarb Rhizome
Botanical Name: Rheum Palmatum
Actions: biliary sedative, anti-inflammatory, antibacterial (9g)

Pin Yin Name: San Qi or Tian Qi
Common Name: Pseudoginsing Root
Botanical Name: Radix Pseudoginsing
Actions: stop bleeding, transform blood stasis, can stop bleeding without causing blood stasis, traumatic injuries, alleviate pain, reduce swelling (12g)

Pin Yin Name: Xue Ji
Common Name: Dragons Blood
Botanical Name: Daemonorops Draconis Sanguis
Actions: Dispel blood stasis, relieve pain, traumatic injuries causing fractures, contusion, sprains, bruising and stops bleeding (Red resin extracted from the fruit of Daemonorops draco (9g)

Pin Yin Name: Gao Ben or Chuan Xiong
Common Name: Ligusticum or Lovage Root, Chinese
Botanical Name: Ligusticum Sinensis Rhizome et Radix
Actions: analgesic, emmenagogue, anti-inflammatory (9g)

Pin Yin Name: Ji Xue Teng
Common Name: Spatholobus
Botanical Name: Caulis Milleti
Actions: Promote movement of blood, tonify blood (9g)

This is a medicine so there are rules that need to be followed:

: External use only, do not ingest.
: Do not use on open wounds, only closed one.
: Do not use on eyes, mouth or genitals
: Do not use on lower abdomen, if pregnant.

from: http://www.pangai-noon.net/Dit%20Da%20Jow.html

Common Chinese Herbal Formulas for Pain Due To Trauma

By Robert Chu, L.Ac.Throughout my many years in my sports and martial arts, I have come across many trauma (known in Chinese as dit da, literally "fall and strike") prescriptions for herbal liniments, powders, plasters, and decoctions. Many Chinese are familiar with herbal liniments that are used for bruises, sprains, strains, fractures, and other trauma, due to a blow or fall. These formulas can all be used by weekend athletes and others who have to visit their sports medicine doctor. Beware of claims, "My secret formula is the best!" In the past, I stared with amazement and almost revered the brown, smelly liniment as I rubbed it into my bruises and training aches and pains.

After studying Chinese medicine and learning the fundamental principles, etiology of disease, methods of diagnosis, herbology, massage, acupuncture, moxibustion and cupping, I learned that a Chinese medicine practitioner must tailor treatments to the individual, and no set method is used to cure everyone or every injury. Indeed, one liniment I used regularly for bruises did heal my bruises in a few days, but always made me break out in a rash that lasted for two weeks! It always seemed to me that the cure was almost as bad as the injury or worse!

I later analyzed the prescription's individual ingredients and, through diagnosis, found my personal constitution had a lot of heat. Although the traditional formula has some very toxic and warm herbs in it, based on my constitution, these herbs were not for me. The result of having a warm constitution, living in a warm climate (Los Angeles), plus using warm herbs was inflammation, a rash.

Tradition or not, this prescription was not for me. Instead, I substituted the prepared versions of the above herbs and the effect was more agreeable for my individual constitution. Most experienced herbalists take a base formula and customize it for the individual. Thus, there is not one true, secret, ultimate trauma prescription! So beware of such claims.

Generally speaking, commercial forms of Chinese herbal trauma formulas like Xiao Huo Luo Dan (small invigorate collaterals pill), Bai Hua Yu (white flower oil), Tian Qi Jiu (first aid antiseptic), Yunnan Bai Yao (yunnan white powder), and Zheng Gu Shui (correct the bone liniment), are safe and effective for most everyday injuries. Many Chinese would rather use these herbal formulas first for a minor injury. I would certainly advise readers to seek proper medical attention in case of serious injury.

Xiao Huo Luo Dan is taken as a pill, and generally used for backaches, muscle strains, and broken bones. This is available prepackaged with directions for use. Like all herbal medicines, it is best to use as directed on the package.

Bai Hua Yu is a fragrant analgesic oil, used for stiff muscles and strains as a result of "over doing it." I usually refer to it as "Chinese Ben Gay." Avoid getting the oil on your face, as it can irritate the eyes.

Tian Qi Jiu is an herbal liniment for bruises. Usually, the person using it rubs it on topically into bruises or contusions.

Yunnan Bai Yao is a powder that stops bleeding immediately and is used when you have minor cuts or scrapes, or if you cut yourself shaving. During the Vietnam War, soldiers were given a supply of this powder for firearm wounds. It was so precious that soldiers referred to it as a "gold they wouldn't trade." Dramatically, this powder can stop bleeding instantly and promote healing with little to no scarring.

Finally, Zheng Gu Shui is a fine liniment for minor bruises, strains, and minor fractures to the fingers or toes. It also helps stop the pain that may occur due to minor sports injuries. It is also best to avoid on the face as it can irritate the eyes.

All of these commercial patents are available at your local Chinatown drug store or Chinese herbalist. If your goal is hard training, or you have sustained a more severe injury, it is better to visit a Chinese herbalist to create a formula based on your individual constitution, climate, and type of training or injury. Just because herbal formulas are natural, does not mean they are not dangerous medicine when used incorrectly. Many immuno-comprised individuals and pregnant women should avoid herbal trauma prescriptions as the herbs may be somewhat toxic or have affects regarding blood flow and may lead to miscarriage.

A good reference book for the majority of Chinese trauma herbs and their uses is Chinese Patent Herbal Formulas by Jake Fratkin (Shya Publications, 1985).

Robert Chu is a Licensed Acupuncturist/Chinese herbalist available for consultation in the Los Angeles area. You can e-mail him at chusauli@aol.com for martial arts and sports medicine-based training herbal formulas for trauma and pain. He can alsso be reached at:

Robert Chu, L.Ac.
Chusauli@aol.com
at Miller Family Chiropractic
212 East Foothill Blvd.
Arcadia, CA 91006
(626) 930-1355

from: http://www.acupuncture.com/herbs/painherbc.htm

1.) Phellodendri, Cortex, Huang Bai 30g
2.) Acanthopanacis Gracilistyli Radicis, Cortex, Wu Jia Pi 30g
3.) Drynariae, Rhizoma, Gu Sui Bu 30g
4.) Olibanum, Gummi, Ru Xiang 30g
5.) Arisaematis, Rhizoma, (Toxic) Tian Nan Xing 30g *
6.) Eucommiae Ulmoidis, Cortex, Du Zhong 30g
7.) Aconiti Carmichaeli, Radix, (Toxic) Chuan Wu 30g *
8.) Curcumae, Tuber, Yu Jin 30g
9.) Gardeniae Jasminoidis, Fructus, Zhi Zi 30g
10.) Corydalis Yanhusuo, Rhizoma, Yan Hu Suo 30g
11.) Aconiti Kusnezoffi, Radix, (Toxic) Cao Wu 30g *
12.) Curcumae Longae, Rhizoma, Jiang Huang 30g
13.) Codonopsitis Pilosulae, Radix, Dang Shen 30g
14.) Rehmanniae Glutinosae, Radix, Sheng Di Huang 30g
15.) Asari, Herba cum Radice, Xi Xin 30g
16.) Myrrha, Mo Yao 30g
17.) Citri Reticulatae Viride, Pericarpium, Qing Pi 30g
18.) Radix et Rhizoma Rhei, Da Huang 30g
19.) Sappan, Lignum, Su Mu 30g

Put all ingredients in a gallon GLASS jar and mix with any of the following:
Vodka
Rum
Or Rubbing Alcohol
To save money you can mix the Rubbing Alcohol with the Vodka or Rum .
Let the contents sit in a cool dark place for a minimum of six (6) weeks.
Shake the contents everyday for those first six weeks. The longer you let your formula soak in the alcohol the stronger and better it will get.
This Jow is a great All purpose Jow for Iron-Palm training. Rub a small amount on hands before each set of strikes, and then after the last set. Your hands will feel fine by the next day ready for you striking procedures again.
This jow is also great for Meditations. Rub some jow on your hands before you start your meditation and then a small amount afterwards. This will greatly enhance your meditations and the effect they will have on you.
“Note: this Formula is for External Use Only”


Source:
HERBAL FORMULAS - 18 Daoist Palms System - HERBAL FORMULAS
Mew Hing's 18 Daoist Palms Authentic Martial Herbal Formulas, Volume 1
Per page 5, "I personally and many others in the Martial Arts Community have been using these formulas with great results."

“	Originally Posted By: el mas suave Put all ingredients in a gallon GLASS jar and mix with any of the following:Vodka Rum Or Rubbing Alcohol To save money you can mix the Rubbing Alcohol with the Vodka or Rum . Let the contents sit in a cool dark place for a minimum of six (6) weeks.	”

No! Do NOT use rubing alcohol.

“	Originally Posted By: el mas suave This Jow is a great All purpose Jow for Iron-Palm training. Rub a small amount on hands before each set of strikes, and then after the last set. Your hands will feel fine by the next day ready for you striking procedures again.	”

Iron palm jow is categorically very different from "all-purpose", its a specific type of recipe with specific actions. Iron palm jow generally wont be best for "all-purpose" use and an "all-purpose" jow will definitely not be best for serious iron palm training...

el mas, please be careful about the information you give out.

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PlumDragon Herbs: Dit Da Jow and Iron Palm Liniments

"When a handshake passes the elbow, it becomes Judo."

The following is from a book which should be on every martial artist’s bookshelf:

A Tooth from the Tiger’s Mouth
By Tom Bisio

Although each kung fu school prides itself on having a unique formula that is superior to all others, most trauma liniments are fairly similar. All contain ingredients that stop pain, reduce swelling and inflammation, and disperse stagnant qi and blood. The following recipe makes a good-quality trauma liniment that is effective for treating a wide variety of sports injuries. In this formula, cooling and warming herbs are carefully balanced so that the cooling herbs reduce inflammation and swelling as effectively as ice, while the warming herbs kill pain, promote circulation, and break up accumulations of blood and fluids.

Trauma Liniment – External Use Only
12 grams Da Huang
12 grams Zhi Zi
12 grams Hong Hua
12 grams Huang Bai
12 grams Mo Yao
12 grams Ru Xiang
12 grams Xue Jie
12 grams Lu Lu Tong
12 grams Dang Gui Wei

This recipe makes one gallon of trauma liniment. The herbs will have already been dried or otherwise prepared by the Chinese pharmacy or herb supplier. Simply put the herbs in a jar with one gallon of vodka or rice wine (80-100 proof).

are there any recipes with chinese characters anywhere online?

I am not aware of any Jow recipes online with Chinese characters, so I have sent a package to you today via FedEx. It is scheduled to be delivered to your club in Manila on March 1st.

Pay it forward,

Enjoy!

Is that a marketing attempt ?

Formulating jows is not about "opinion", but teachings and experience. And in quite some instances you cannot just throw x gram of the plant into some random liquid, you need to process it before. Many internet recipes mention chinese names for a processed version of some herb and then the latin name of the herb as if you can use it raw, without mentioning you need to cook, burn, or acid process that to get rid of toxic effects. Like for Croton Tiglium which is a dangerous poison that easily could kill if overdosed. So please be wary and better make such jows yourself only if you know what you're doing, or can ask someone trustable.

And why would you lose some TCM license for giving advices when other people write long essays on the subject with their full name ? This sounds not entirely honest, so please clarify on the issue, otherwise I expect this to be an attempt to draw orders by "hinting" at being some licensed TCM expert when one is not.

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"Killing them all didn't make it any better..." - "Are you a freak or something ???" - Max Payne
"Theft is a crime, even in Iraq." - Me.

Starguard and el mas suave have been banned as I think they were one and the same.

They have posted on other boards the same information from others without much to back it up with personal experience.

I have been brewing dit da jow for over 15 years and have been training MA for 30.

Anyone has a question let me know how I can be of service.

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Be well, train hard and heal quickly.

“	Originally Posted By: Dale Dugas67 Starguard and el mas suave have been banned as I think they were one and the same.	”

Right on the money my friend. Starguard, el mas suave and great mender were all posting from the same IP address.

Banned...



Ill clean up the thread a bit if anyone fels it might help readability and getting thigns back on topic...

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PlumDragon Herbs: Dit Da Jow and Iron Palm Liniments

"When a handshake passes the elbow, it becomes Judo."

Please feel free to delete or comment the stuff (in red) that isn't true or misleading, in the "guys" posts.

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"Fawning, but proud!" - (at least sometimes, in rare cases)
"Killing them all didn't make it any better..." - "Are you a freak or something ???" - Max Payne
"Theft is a crime, even in Iraq." - Me.

“	Originally Posted By: PlumDragon Ill clean up the thread a bit if anyone fels it might help readability and getting thigns back on topic...	”

I became a member just to respond to this thread this morning. Plumdragon, please feel free to make changes that improve this thread's readability and delete what Unkotare refers to as personal attacks but please leave the recipes intact as they are a valuable reference to us do-it-yourselfers.

The three fools who are one who posted formulas seems to have no real education in the formulation of any kind of Chinese herbal medicine.

There is no formula that I have EVER seen where you add the same amount of all ingredients. I do not agree with Tom Bisio about his formulas but that is not the issue here as Tom Bisio has great skills.

There is always a staggered amount depending on the formula and what it is supposed to do. Some herbs need larger amounts depending on if the herb is fresh or prepared.

This everything and the kitchen sink kind of formula shows total ignorance to how complex formulas actually are within Chinese medicine.

Posting formulas from Jim Lacy, a known fraud and Tom Bisio points to being good at Google fu and not from any self study/formal education.

Please be careful all you do it yourselfers. Get some decent materia medica books and study before you throw all these toxic herbs in INSANE amounts into a jar and hurt yourself and others.

You are not going to learn this subject well on the net and should seek out professionals who have the training and the knowledge involved.

Let me know how I can be of service to you. I have been making dit da jow for over 15 years. I also teach people the ins and outs about dit da for martial arts via personal instruction as well as seminars. I will be teaching Dit Da for Martial Artists at this years Zhang San Feng Festival.

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