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August 29th, 2008, 01:06 AM
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I have retrolisthesis of L5 on S1 with intervertebral disc bulge/protrusion on CT examination from a training injury. Has anyone reported success using one of your jows for retrolisthesis or a similar injury? | 
August 29th, 2008, 09:53 AM
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I have not had any customers use jow for that specific problem. Lots of people have used the jow successfullly for a number of musculoskeletal back problems, but depending on the grade of degeneration, you may need to engage in some kind of physical therapy, etc--as you probably know, there are even surgical procedures to correct heavy gades of spinal problems.
Ultimately, its something you should work with your doctor on, and perhaps use the jow as a means to accelerate your progress or reduce pain. | 
August 31st, 2008, 12:38 AM
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Thank you for your input, as it is greatly appreciated.
FYI, doctors loaded me down with drugs (pain killer, muscle relaxer, and an anti-inflammatory) and told me to stay in bed for 72 hours and alternate ice with heat. The drugs have made the sharp pain subside somewhat but have done nothing to treat the cause of the pain. So, to correct the disc problem, I intend to use frequent and liberal applications of jow along with therapeutic movements suggested by the following two books :
3 Minutes to a Pain-Free Life by Dr. Joseph Weisberg, P.T., Ph.D.
ISBN-13: 978-0743476478 The Permanent Pain Cure by Ming Chew, L.P.T. ISBN-13: 978-0071498630 | 
November 2nd, 2008, 03:43 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | My back feels 100 percent and the following is how I relieved the pain caused by my disc problem (retrolisthesis of L5 on S1 with intervertebral disc bulge/protrusion).
The first month, I used frequent and liberal applications of jow along with therapeutic movements suggested by the following two books:
3 Minutes to a Pain-Free Life by Dr. Joseph Weisberg, P.T., Ph.D.
ISBN-13: 978-0743476478 The Permanent Pain Cure by Ming Chew, L.P.T. ISBN-13: 978-0071498630
After the first month, my back felt about about 85 percent recovered. So, I added therapeutic movements suggested by the following book:
Low Back Disorders: Evidence Based Prevention and Rehabilitation by Stuart McGill, Ph.D.
ISBN-13: 978-0-7360-6692-1
p.s.: Yesterday I used my jow to relieve the swelling, itching and redness following a bee sting! | 
November 3rd, 2008, 04:13 AM
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Have you looked at relieving tension to the psoas muscle as well?
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November 3rd, 2008, 09:43 PM
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Very interesting...
Have you looked at relieving tension to the psoas muscle as well? | ” | |
Yes, I have been doing the Hip Flexor Stretch which affects the psoas. According to Ming Chew, "it is one of the most important of all stretches. It is key for basic health because the psoas is attached to every organ in the abdomen and pelvis".
However, I now consider "flossing the nerve roots" to be a key element of my rehabilitation program. According to Stuart McGill, "recently, scientists have suggested that nerves have the ability to create their own pathways as long as they can move. They seem to have some chemically based ability to dissolve--over time--tissues impinging them. The idea of "flossing" is to pull the cord and nerves from one end only while releasing at the other, and then to switch the pull and release direction. In this way the nerve roots are "flossed" through their entire length. Thus, by working the nerves back and forth in whatever limited range they can manage in spite of impingement, we facilitate the dissolving of the impingement and the gradual release of the nerve to once again move freely. This flossing action is accomplished with coordinated hip, knee, and cervical motion."
Also, I am convinced that the frequent and liberal applications of jow accelerated my healing process. | |
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