dit da jow

“	Originally Posted By: Zipwolf FF has only one jow listed, and its just labelled "Dit Da Jow"	”

Give him a call so he knows which one to send you; I believe that is the most convenient for him anyway: 01702 354701

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PlumDragon Herbs: Dit Da Jow and Iron Palm Liniments

"When a handshake passes the elbow, it becomes Judo."

Already sent a PM, but thanks for the number anyway. Keep it up there just in case i suppose .

Thanks Plum, nice to see you're on the case there bro! Teamwork's the name of the game, eventually we'll wear 'em down!!!

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Faith itself, compelled by the Holy Spirit, possesses an inner dynamism that necessitates deeper understanding. ~Thomas Weinandy O.F.M.

“	Originally Posted By: FightingFat Thanks Plum, nice to see you're on the case there bro! Teamwork's the name of the game, eventually we'll wear 'em down!!!	”

No problem at all

Slowly but surely... =)

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PlumDragon Herbs: Dit Da Jow and Iron Palm Liniments

"When a handshake passes the elbow, it becomes Judo."

In case anyone is still interested, the newest issue of Inside Kung Fu contains several recipes for Dit Da Jow, as well as preparation instructions for the more complicated recipes.

Yesterday fiances daughter hit her leg on the dresser jumping into bed. She had a little knot and it was nice and red. I got some of plum dragons jow and put it on there and the now there's no sign of any damage. No bruise nothing. Good as new.
I also put some of the iron palm stuff on my grandma's arthritic hands. She reported no pain the next day. She even kept the bottle! His stuff is good. Just wanted to let people know.

I use jow that my grandmaster brews. I have found that on bruises, if you put the jow on then on top of that use Burt's Bees Res- Q ointment it really fades the bruises quickly.

Res- Q ointment also is the best thing I've found for razor burn, but that's a whole 'nother post .

“	Originally Posted By: ChiBeast Good as new. I also put some of the iron palm stuff on my grandma's arthritic hands. She reported no pain the next day. She even kept the bottle! His stuff is good. Just wanted to let people know.	”

Oh, good idea, my grandfather has been having some arthritic pain in his hands, maybe I should bring him a bottle.

“	Originally Posted By: green_tea I use jow that my grandmaster brews.	”

Yes my Sifu does the same.

I had a large bruise from when I stupidly fell on some ice and hit a barn stone.

I put that on and in 2-3 applications the bruise was gone. I couldn't believe it.

My son said his hands were hurting (probably from playing games all day ) and he used it and his hands were fine after that.

Strange and exciting stuff!

I notice that most of you dont say Why you want Dit Da Jow and what your going to do with it.

These are important questions as there are a great many Jows to make, each one is used for different things.

It would be a good idea to talk to your Sifu and see of your even ready to use Dit Da Jow in your training, Not only should you know what your doing but what the ingredients are and what they do for you.

It would be no good to put 2 stroke motor oil in your car and think oil is oil.

Just a thought.

“	Originally Posted By: Silo-Fu Kung-Fu I notice that most of you dont say Why you want Dit Da Jow and what your going to do with it. These are important questions as there are a great many Jows to make, each one is used for different things. It would be a good idea to talk to your Sifu and see of your even ready to use Dit Da Jow in your training, Not only should you know what your doing but what the ingredients are and what they do for you. It would be no good to put 2 stroke motor oil in your car and think oil is oil. Just a thought.	”

Mine was easy it was to help the saucer sized bruise on my arm!

Yeah though that is a good idea. I know that Grandmaster Feeman Ong here in Ohio used many different types of the stuff for different things. I do not know if my Sifu makes multiple types. Something for me to look into.

“	Originally Posted By: Silo-Fu Kung-Fu I notice that most of you dont say Why you want Dit Da Jow and what your going to do with it. These are important questions as there are a great many Jows to make, each one is used for different things.	”

A majority of people use jow as a bruise liniment. The fact that not everybody comes right out and says, "Im going to use this dit da jow for this bruise on my shin and so it has du zhong in it" doesnt mean that they dont know what theyre doing. Really, its beside the point because this thread isnt about "why" everybody uses jow; although, it could be a fun thread, perhaps you should start one.

“	Originally Posted By: Silo-Fu Kung-Fu It would be a good idea to talk to your Sifu and see of your even ready to use Dit Da Jow in your training, Not only should you know what your doing but what the ingredients are and what they do for you.	”

Dit da jow is a great training tool that can be, and is, used from practically day 1 at many schools due to the types of exercises that are done; its not some mystical potion reserved only for white-haired wizards. Also, knowing the ingredients and what they do for you is not a prerequisite to using jow, and more work to *really* know whats going on than any beginner/intermediate kung fu student need be thrown at them. Moreover, in todays day and age, even most sifus cant give you a quantatitive analysis on each ingredient, active compound, and essential/volatile oils, or the effect of each singularly and combined...Thats why many martial arts schools do the sensible thing and buy from somebody like me

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PlumDragon Herbs: Dit Da Jow and Iron Palm Liniments

"When a handshake passes the elbow, it becomes Judo."

Alot of the ingredients used in Dit Da Jow are posionous so in my humble opinion not knowing what the ingredients are and what aspect of training your using the stuff for might be important.

Im sure there are alot of variations that are used for reducing bruise's and thats fine.

But when you start getting into the higher levels of learning your going to want somthing thats going to be benificial to what your doing as opposed to somthing that might be.

I have seen alot of people that tryed to train in Iron Palm for example and not take care of there hands, and find out that there was nothing they did that was correct. Some did not use Dai Da Jow, some trained way too hard too soon, and others just had no idea.

Im not saying that the people on here dont know any good recipies I have my own and Im happy with the results.

I just think that with Dit Da Jow thats a subject that those using it should know as much as possiable.

Now a days people have allergies to the stragest things, So you never know.

I have yet to meet a Sifu that does not understand whats in, what it does and how to make Dit Da Jow.

This past summer I made two different Jow's and each are used for different things and at different points in my training.

Anyways good luck in your training and have fun.

While I take issue with some of the things you continue to bring up, my MAIN point is that its unnecessary for a user to know all of the detailed information about a substance (whether it is dit da, aspirin, or the italian dish you ate at Olive Garden last night) to use it--They only need know specifically what it is to be used for and how to use it. I imagine, unless anything new is brought up, that this will be my last reply:

“	Originally Posted By: Silo-Fu Kung-Fu Alot of the ingredients used in Dit Da Jow are posionous so in my humble opinion not knowing what the ingredients are and what aspect of training your using the stuff for might be important.	”

There are FAR more herbs that are not toxic than the ones that are; Without going into a lengthy discussion, its VERY easy to find and/or make jow without using toxic ingredients; furthermore, most toxic herbs are prepared (zhi) in the first step of the supply chain so that when they arrive in manufacturers hands (like mine) and in retailers hands, and in the customers hands, the toxic properties are nonexistant.

Do you know whats in Lunesta? Ritalin? What about pepto-bismol, or any medication or processed product that you use on your body? You put things in and on your body everyday that you have no idea what is inside them, but only know they work. I still contend that requiring a student to know all about the jow which he uses is an unnecessary amount of work for someone unless they desire to know. If they want to know, great! Pick up a materia medica and a textbook and get to work! But it isnt a prerequisite to use; what is, is following the gudelines set forth by the maker of the product.

“	Originally Posted By: Silo-Fu Kung-Fu I have seen alot of people that tryed to train in Iron Palm for example and not take care of there hands, and find out that there was nothing they did that was correct. Some did not use Dai Da Jow, some trained way too hard too soon, and others just had no idea.	”

This has nothing to do with jow, and EVERYTHING to do with bad choices by a student.

“	Originally Posted By: Silo-Fu Kung-Fu Im not saying that the people on here dont know any good recipies I have my own and Im happy with the results.	”

mehhh...Look, its not about whether people do or dont know the "good recipes". This is about you getting on peoples backs about the fact that you think they shouldnt be using dit da without justifying reasons and knowledge to you, here on this forum, and its about me telling you thats ridiculous. Sorry to be so blunt about it, thats just the way I feel.

“	Originally Posted By: Silo-Fu Kung-Fu I just think that with Dit Da Jow thats a subject that those using it should know as much as possiable.	”

Those *making* it should know as much as possible. Those using it need to follow the usage guidelines set forth by those who make it.

“	Originally Posted By: Silo-Fu Kung-Fu I have yet to meet a Sifu that does not understand whats in, what it does and how to make Dit Da Jow.	”

Ive met many, many high-level martial artists who really dont care; I would also be remiss if I didnt say that I think that many of the sifus that think they know alot about the subject, in all actuality have never researched the herbs and effects beyond what their sifu tells them, and cannot tell you for example, why san qi (pseudoginseng) has the miraculous ability to both move stangnant blood and stop internal bleeding--the answer btw, is that some of the chemicals in pseudoginseng--notoginsenocide R1--lowers/inhibits the body's thrombin rate. Do you honestly expect a casual user of dit da to be able to tell you details like that??

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PlumDragon Herbs: Dit Da Jow and Iron Palm Liniments

"When a handshake passes the elbow, it becomes Judo."

Plum - I don't even know what you said. Heh.