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Old February 21st, 2007, 09:50 PM
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How will you learn how to cut, without cutting? Some times live blades are called for.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 10:07 PM
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a couple of things.

1. Training with live blade will give you a whole new respect for things that are sharp.
2. HOWEVER...in training, you cannot train with real speed - or can you. Aqira correct me if I am wrong. In real situation, they would move much much faster. That can mess up your training, no?
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We use both simulated and live blades. Most of my students have skills in fact most are a middle to high rank in some style so they are not all that sloppy. many of them are cops and use to confrontations.

We learn then we practice then we do. Most of what I teach is the dynamics of motion and structure with a lot of simplified anotomy so the students learn where and how to attack. As I said I don't teach self-defense I teach how to do damage and no one in this class has any doubt about what they are learning to do.

Allen drills help get the speed up and solo drills really develope the body to move in certain ways to remove old habbits and replace them with autoresponce as much as we can. Then the student goes against a traget and then each other. We also use body padding and some armor ( police furninshed) for simulated live situations but the targets are pretty realistic for things like the feel of impact.

A lot of the training is the mental aspects of fights with as much work as can be done on clairty remaining calm and handicaped fighting. This is not so hard as most of my students fight bad a$$ people for a living.

The training is a combination of what I have learned that I think works based on strong science and fact then guided by our spiritual teachings in some areas.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 11:21 PM
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sounds intersting. Next time I'm in Orlando area, I would like to visit your class - if that's ok. I might not participate - I like my tingers and foes.

I would like to incorporate some knive work in my teaching. The guys I train with never did any knive stuff. I have but I havn't had much chance to share that with them yet.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 11:28 PM
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I have done a few threads here on knife fighting and can do some more but its funny those threads don't get a lot of response.
The chance of you using a knife as a weapon as compared to a sword or staff or some exotic Chinese lance is almost nil yet not many schools get into it. I see a lot of slow demos with some guy stabbing at a stomach or overhead strike then watch the other guy do like 30 or 40 moves against him while he stands there and they call that knife self defense....BS

There is one guy I would give that kind of credit to and he is a cop that teaches some reality classes. He has a ju jitsu background but hard street cop experience. He will be at Blade at the CRKT booth and might be doing at seminar. He works on spotting the weapon attack and what to do first, he has some good stuff.
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I agree with the old man that there should be more and of cours *better* knive attack threads and info here..
too bad, most of us don't know crap about knive fighting so...

it's all yours A....

but at the same time you won't get much good responses in those thread because of the fact that hardly anyone has anything to add because of the lack of knowledge

don't think your stuff isn't read or appreciated, 'cause I'm sure it is...

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seriuosly aqira

due to your input

i have started knife training on sudays at our kwoon

only blunt blades tho

as nobody has a high enough skill level to mess with sharp one at the moment IMO

well appreciated
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I always read your knife fighting threads but since I don't know much about it I can't give much input.
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I got my own stash of Aqira's blade threads... among a few other things. Hopefully when I get the chance to visit.... I can check out your class. Although like Allan stated, I'll probably just be a spectator.
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I don't mind mixing it up but I'm not sticking my tingers in any live blade...no sir!
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I concur. Open hand.... sure. Blades = me watching from the side.
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just wondering what you think,do the systems we train in not give us the tools to deal with knife attackes,are the systems not good enough or do thay need up dateing,does your system realy need a seperate knife defence tecniques
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 02:15 PM
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Don't know everyones systems, but then like most things it depends more on the persons own skill level and more important ability to stay clear calm and in control of their own body and mind.

In general terms most styles suck at knife defense against a trained blade fighter. Many of the things taught will get you into trouble. Also as I have pointed out before why do people think a knife fighter has not trained against counters?
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we are still experimenting with it at the moment

as nobody has any knife fighting experience

we have not idea what a trained knife fighter would really do

so we doing what we would do with a knife

which has shown that it is easy to cut even well trained unarmed fighters

but it would be nice not to have to 'reinvent the wheel'
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ok found these

theyre short clips







the follow up he does after the initial movement i think are a bit unrealistic

but his first reactive movements

are very similar to what i would do
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