another student stabbed..I love this class!

there are many places to start like if you pay attention to how things funtion not just the body but anything that is stuture under motion you can get a grasp on the basics of physics beyond the math. Applied to the interaction between you and another you can learn to see pathways and structures and learn to navigate them. Like currents through a rocky pass you are a boat, how do you steer?

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the videos....Thats the kind of thing I was *****ing about that will get you killed....it don't work like that


any student with about a year in any style can come up with demos like that all day long...then get cut to ribbons by someones baby sister

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so i take you wouldnt react in a similar manner then ?

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not in either position

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thats a very good point knife fighters are trained against counters now thats food for thought,as wing nut said i to have know knowlege of a good knife fighter,

Okay, I understand this thread is a little old, but after reading it I had to make a comment. So try and not bash me too hard for posting on an old thread.

Aquira - your knowledge on blades is deep and very insightful. I really enjoyed reading your posts and will now probably go back and read up on the others discussions. Thanks.

For the last, I dunno..probably 9 - 10 years I've been working with blades, but only in the last 3 years or so have I really started to understand the concepts. I have a fascination of dealing with knives because back in my high school days I had gotten threaten with them, twice, and couldn't figure out how to deal against the situation. (That's a scary thought if you ever find yourself in it)

At first, I was doing primarily what the guy in the vids did. Then one day I got a little ****y, gave my cuz a knife and told him to attack me and I would show him how to deal with it (Now this was about six months after starting the training). Luckily the knife was decently dull, but I still got owned. He sliced and diced me up with plenty of little cuts and gouges. I couldn't understand how my training could have failed me, and I was working hard on the knife tactics! Took a while but then it dawned on me, I was looking at the flashy aspect of it and making it look really "cool" and "neat", but completely inpractical. I stopped working with that instuctors on knive defense after that.

About a year later, I found my current instructor and started to really work knife defense. There wasn't a emphisis on flashy/complicated movements. It was about simplicity and understanding the way the body works (anatomy/physiology).

So I've came a long way than where I was, but only in the last 3 years have I really began to understand and train in knife combat more. (Plus, I seen what a uneducated knife weilding idiot can do - he did the job to a very close family member of mine) The principles/concepts can carry over into empty hand combat, as well as working against just about any other weapon. I have came to the conclusion that when faced with a weapon wielding idiot, you have to break them! There isn't much room for errors or mistakes because the fight can turn into a homicide REAL quick. The speed, reaction, sensitivity, and etc. drills carry over into everything you do, plus if you can get comfortable dealing against a blade, then someone simply throwing punches seems a little less threatening.

Personally, I haven't gotten to comfortable at training with sharp blades yet, but I do train with regular knives. The ones you would buy at the store, before you sharpen them up to a(n) hair splitting level. Right now they offer enough of the realism for me, but I do hope to enventually start training with sharp blades.

Again, I really liked this thread and hope that more follow because the threat of running into a knife out in the real world is increasing daily. This type of Knowledge isn't only powerful, but also life saving! Something to think about.

Thanks,
-Ngfamilydude

You made a couple of important points, that being carry over to empty hands and if you can get use to working against a blade a punch isn't such a threat.
Another you started to hint at is that there are ways that things funtion and that is a real key issue. Knowing funtion and limits is important in any aera of martial arts but even more against a weapon. Its those things students should learn and learn to a point that it does not require that much thought to see.
A live blade will hone the sense better than anything else. When training has a potential price people pay attention more and it is that keen mind -body connection that is so important in martial arts in the real world.

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Aqira,

Just a simple question if you would answer!??

What got your focus in knife training and why?

Thanks,
-Ngfamilydude

One reason is I like knives and swords I collect them have for a long time.

The main reason is I started learning how to use one at 13 when I joined my first gang. Carried them sonce then used them a couple of times had some pulled on me it became something I needed to know. Had some military training and became a trainer (contract). I have been lucky enough to have a couple of teachers that had a lot of skill that i could learn the right things from.

I still prefer exotic blades and of them curved blade. I started to learn the Khukuri about 25 years ago and then the karambit and love both of those arts, spent a lot of time and effort on them. Now I teach that and standard fixed blade methods.

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Ahhh alright.

Since you have been in a couple of confrontations what is the most important thing you have learned dealing with ppl who attack you with a knife. It doesn't have to be a technique, but a simple priniciple!

Personally, for myself, I have learned that when a person attacks you (whether it be a knife or not, but I learned this through knife training), you break his weapon, you do not give it back to them because sure enough they will attack with it again.

That and when confronted, you have to place everything on the line, because if you hold back, then it may be the last time you are allowed to do such a thing.

Thanks,
-Ngfamilydude

Nice

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I treat a knife like a gun, you got a chance if you fail I won't and you won't walk away. Thats my attitude and commitment. It is commitment to how you will respond that is important you can't think at that point you need to have all that worked out deep inside well in advance.
As far as what to do..control, control, control you have to go for that over all else.

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Sound advice.

Thanks Aqira

so which is more important for knife fighting? Craddeling the knife close to the body or holding it out in front? which is the better gaurd position?








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Stay close...but craddeling is not the way to do it for one thing you have to stay fluid and have as little restriction to movement and direction as possible.
One thing that helps is having an understanding of what we call (ABC) which is anatomical bidirectional capabilities.

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