Realistic Weight Weapons

I need some help. I cant find any sites that sell weapons that have the weight weapons in ancient times would have had. I can only find the modern light junk that weighs a few pounds.

Have you looked at Combat Steel weapons?

They are heavier weapons and match the older style in many details

Martial arts supplies karate, tae kwon do, and kung fu gears and equipment sells combat steel weapons. I think they sell some wushu stuff too, so make sure to read the details of the item.

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Weird, I typed in just the web site and it changed it in my previous post to this commercial. Oh well, they still sell combat steel weapons.

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This is where I shop for weapons. They have some truly beautiful Japanese, Chinese, and European Swords. Most of their stuff is extremely sharp and battle ready.

Sharp Edge - Home

They get most of their stuff from Overseas, so if they don't ship to you, I'm sure they could tell you where they get their stuff from.

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That is a quality that is below $20, often below $10, in a chinese shop.

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Real battle ready weapons from history were not "overly heavy"..... they were very light comparatively. Most modern junk is actually heavier than the real stuff from history.... at least as far as Japanese and European weapons go... I don't know about Chinese stuff...

What makes junk junk and real stuff real stuff is how it is made and what it is made from. You don't make a sword real and "battle ready" just by making it thicker and heavier...

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“	You don't make a sword real and "battle ready" just by making it thicker and heavier...	”

Agreed, though it is often the case, that the real version will be heavier. I remember my Taiji Sifu was given a really nice Dao for her Birthday. She let me swing it around a bit, and it was definitely heavier than my training Dao. Also, the blade did not have a wobble/bend factor like the training swords. Though, if that is exactly how the weight and thickness was back in the day, I wouldn't know.

On the other hand, I have a proper Jian, that is about the same weight and thickness as the training equivalent. It's just got a much more solid construction than the training Jian.

I would guess that at any point in time, people were trying to make swords as light as possible ( using the knowledge of the time ), without sacrificing the power/weight to cut through stuff.

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I sell real combat weight stuff Crouching Tiger Martial Arts and Boxing Supplies

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“	Originally Posted By: Lugaldamhara Real battle ready weapons from history were not "overly heavy"..... they were very light comparatively. Most modern junk is actually heavier than the real stuff from history.... at least as far as Japanese and European weapons go... I don't know about Chinese stuff... What makes junk junk and real stuff real stuff is how it is made and what it is made from. You don't make a sword real and "battle ready" just by making it thicker and heavier...	”

Um... Example: The guandao of today weighs about 4Lb. The old ones used to weigh between 100Lb. and 200Lb.

Yeah im looking for the heavey MFs that would have been used by ancient warriors.
A few pounds is nothing compared to what they used to weigh.

“	While it could be used from horseback, and was so by the Koreans, the guan dao could also be used by infantry as an anti-personnel and anti-cavalry weapon. The modern guan dao as adopted by martial artists today usually weighs between 2 kg and 10 kg (5 and 20 pounds), while it is said that Guan Yu's original guan dao weighed between 50 and 100 kg (100 and 200 lb). During the Qing dynasty some extraordinarily heavy versions of guan dao were made for use in military examinations: a candidate had to be able to wield a weapon weighing 80, 100, or 120 jin (48, 60 or 72 kg) in order to pass. The weight of Guan Yu's weapon was probably mis-estimated based on some of these examples.	”

A weapon that awkward and that heavy would have been very inefficient. Keep in mind, Chinese martial myth is often greatly exagerrated....

The weapons used by "ancient warriors" were very ergonomic. Of course if you are comparing them to the modern wushu bendy flimsy stuff, then of course the old ones were heavier...

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That is not a weapon, it would be a tool for practice, or a ceremonial item. There were sabers taller than a man, used for practice. I hardly believe that could be of use in combat, you get stabbed dead in a hurry from spear men.

For example, a middle sized jian of 90cm total length would be anywhere between 700g and 950g, fitted (naked blade weighting 600-780g), while having a proper balance between 6 and 6.5 " (15-18 cm). Longer two-handed are heavier, and there were strange big blades much heavier, for reasons I couldn't think of as they would handle slowly (again means you get killed quickly).

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Or it mean you actualy have strength. The shaolin monks carried 80lb. iron staffs. It may be ackward to the common nerd ninja (not saying you guys are lol) of today but you get used to it. I realy dont think that crossbows, 50lb., were the heaviest weapons on the battle feild.

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