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September 26th, 2005, 08:45 PM
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Posted By: MainFrame
I do, how many times did you get takendown in the living room before you decided that learning a crossface could keep you on the feet? I say default because I really didn't want to be a wrestler.?? | ” | |
??????????????So, you do wrestle? And if you do, you don't really want to? | 
September 26th, 2005, 08:46 PM
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As for sympathy cutting. Big bro was not going to turn the a/c off on the way to the gym and I was riding with him, and the car has one of those window lock thingys???? How would you keep from sweating?? | ” | |
Sweating in the car on the way to the gym is not cutting weight. | 
September 26th, 2005, 08:49 PM
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That's a good quality to have. Too bad the part I underlined in your post was not a question sweetie. Muah! | ” | |
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September 27th, 2005, 09:06 AM
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Posted By: Unkotare
Yeah, that was usually me. But cutting weight for no reason is just self-abuse. I would never dream of having anyone sympathy cut. That just makes no sense whatsoever. | ” | |
I'd say this is in the sense of, when you're in a car with a guy who starves to cut weight, you're not going to drive to the Mc and throw in some burgers and a milkshake, and eat lots of twinkies to kill time while his eyes are popping out and his saliva floods the car.
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September 27th, 2005, 09:12 AM
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Sweating in the car on the way to the gym is not cutting weight. | ” | |
I'd say in a hot state at 40° (Celsius) outside temperature and burning sun, a car with switched off clima is a poor mans sauna. I had a black car with no cooler, and when I got in the car in summer when it was in the sun for some hours before, I sweat like hell for some time because it was 70° in the car until the wind cooled it.
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September 27th, 2005, 10:47 AM
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Posted By: Nik
I'd say in a hot state at 40° (Celsius) outside temperature and burning sun, a car with switched off clima is a poor mans sauna. I had a black car with no cooler, and when I got in the car in summer when it was in the sun for some hours before, I sweat like hell for some time because it was 70° in the car until the wind cooled it. | ” | |
That's not the point. Of course the inside of a car can get pretty hot and you may sweat a lot therein, but that does not constitute cutting weight. One (or even several) car rides does not mean you are cutting, it just means your car will smell bad. Cutting is a very deliberate process that takes days or even weeks, it is not just a quick sweat and avoiding the drive through. I say this not to pick nits, but because anyone who has cut hard weight will tell you that it is a special hell that is in no way encapsulated by a ride to the gym in a hot car. | 
September 27th, 2005, 12:21 PM
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Posted By: Unkotare
That's not the point. Of course the inside of a car can get pretty hot and you may sweat a lot therein, but that does not constitute cutting weight. One (or even several) car rides does not mean you are cutting, it just means your car will smell bad. Cutting is a very deliberate process that takes days or even weeks, it is not just a quick sweat and avoiding the drive through. I say this not to pick nits, but because anyone who has cut hard weight will tell you that it is a special hell that is in no way encapsulated by a ride to the gym in a hot car. | ” | |
Exactly. Doing it this way may lose a bit of weight in water, but that goes right back on when you drink to re-hydrate yourself. Only works for a quick battle against the scales when you're just a hair over the limit.
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September 27th, 2005, 06:07 PM
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Rep Power: 25 | | | Even dropping water weight isn't much fun, although I guess it's more rewarding than actually cutting because it goes so much more quickly. I had to drop maybe 10 pounds in 2 weeks for a tournament, so I just ate a lot less and trained harder, but I couldn't have possibly made the weight cut had I not grappled for like 2 hours the night before wearing many layers and only drinking the absolute minimum of water. I managed to drop like 4 pounds water weight in a day and a half or so and it got me well under the weight category.
Of course, that was the tournament where there were only 4 girls, so they just put us all into one open category. So I did it all for nothing....
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September 27th, 2005, 10:18 PM
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Rep Power: 100 | | | Maybe it's just me, but this whole cutting weight thing seems *really* unhealthy...I dated a wrestler in H.S. and I remember the hell he used to go through. Anyway, just my $00.02.
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September 27th, 2005, 10:21 PM
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Rep Power: 100 | | | My son use to do some really strange things to drop weight. Though one method worked well he would wrap a plastic trash bag under his sweat suit and run 5 miles. The one good thing is the 5 years he was on the team he stayed in shape, but then in football season he would have to bulk back up.
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September 27th, 2005, 10:51 PM
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Rep Power: 25 | | | In response to Krissy, yeah, it is pretty unhealthy. But having to grapple up a weight class would suck more than having to drop weight. If there's any way to make it one lower, usually people go for that. I know my weight cutoff is I usually either have to get under 140 or 145 or else I fight unlimited, so it's worth it to cut weight.
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September 27th, 2005, 11:16 PM
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Posted By: Anne
Even dropping water weight isn't much fun, although I guess it's more rewarding than actually cutting because it goes so much more quickly. I had to drop maybe 10 pounds in 2 weeks for a tournament, so I just ate a lot less and trained harder, but I couldn't have possibly made the weight cut had I not grappled for like 2 hours the night before wearing many layers and only drinking the absolute minimum of water. I managed to drop like 4 pounds water weight in a day and a half or so and it got me well under the weight category.
Of course, that was the tournament where there were only 4 girls, so they just put us all into one open category. So I did it all for nothing.... | ” | |
I'd say cutting water (usually near the end) is a big part of cutting, but only a part. | 
September 27th, 2005, 11:17 PM
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Posted By: KungFu Krissy
...I dated a wrestler in H.S. and I remember the hell he used to go through. . | ” | |
Geez, what did you do to him? | 
September 27th, 2005, 11:25 PM
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Posted By: aqira
My son use to do some really strange things to drop weight. Though one method worked well he would wrap a plastic trash bag under his sweat suit and run 5 miles. . | ” | |
Oh, the plastics.  Part of a rough process of self-abuse. I passed out in the sauna a few times, only to be literally dragged up to the wrestling room to layer on the plastics and roll for a couple more hours straight ("roll" may be too charitable a term, my teammates were basically throwing me around enough to keep me moving) all after going a good 2-3 days with 0 food in me. There's more, but... nevermind | 
September 27th, 2005, 11:31 PM
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Geez, what did you do to him? | ” | | 
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