mike patterson thanks for the private message quaijohn...unfortunately i agree with everything you said. i know all about nf and how he does things. dude mike patterson is a pretty bad ass. when i was at wd, they talked so much crap about him. they spread rumors that wd challenged sifu patterson to a fight and he chickened out. i saw one of your school's green or blue sash tests and it was like 100 times harder than wd's black sash test. im happy for you that you're training at sifu patterson's place. apparently he's the lineage holder for his style. his andrea was really nice when we met. we will definitely get together when our school is up and running. im a big fan of chen tai chi and hsing i, particularly sifu patterson's teachiing. whats funnie is, he rejected me after i told him i was a wd instructor. after i left wd, i wanted to give hsing i a try but sifu patterson was adamant about not accepting any wd people. but he was really nice, nonetheless.